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> California's done a lot more than explore the idea of construction. That's irrelevant. There is no planned path, just patches and the project is going to be

by jack9 10y ago

> California's done a lot more than explore the idea of construction. That's irrelevant. There is no planned path, just patches and the project is going to be scaled back to an absurd degree (or sold off, which is basically the same thing). > Anyone who thinks that a statewide high speed rail system in California should be $2-$4 billion dollars in 4 years is fundamentally unserious. The project start, Prop 1A, was for almost 10 billion in 10 years (procedurally discussed, not legislatively enforced). Much like Federal budgets and projects, anything extended beyond the current administration's term limits means it's someone else's problem. Putting people on Mars and this project, should become a reality about the same time.

dragonwriter 10y ago
> There is no planned path Yes, there is a planned alignment for the entire system (and not just the LA to SF "Phase I" for which most of the cost estimates and timelines usually discussed apply, but also the Sacramento to San Diego "Phase 2".) > just patches No, even if you are referring to the context of the initial construction, that's not true; it's directed with a clear plan of a specific segment for initial operations between Silicon valley and the Central Valley. > and the project is going to be scaled back to an absurd degree Pure speculation; it's true that there is uncertainty, largely political in nature, about funding for the portion beyond the part that is supposed to be operational in 2025. But there's also plenty of time to resolve that. > The project start, Prop 1A, was for almost 10 billion in 10 years It was a $10 billion conditional bond authorization (one of the funding challenges has been meeting the conditions in that bond authorization) which was very explicitly not expected to cover full construction cost of the system (nor was there ever a 10 year timeline.)

by jack9 10y ago

dragonwriter 10y ago

> There is no planned path Yes, there is a planned alignment for the entire system (and not just the LA to SF "Phase I" for which most of the cost estimates and timelines usually discussed apply, but also the Sacramento to San Diego "Phase 2".) > just patches No, even if you are referring to the context of the initial construction, that's not true; it's directed with a clear plan of a specific segment for initial operations between Silicon valley and the Central Valley. > and the project is going to be scaled back to an absurd degree Pure speculation; it's true that there is uncertainty, largely political in nature, about funding for the portion beyond the part that is supposed to be operational in 2025. But there's also plenty of time to resolve that. > The project start, Prop 1A, was for almost 10 billion in 10 years It was a $10 billion conditional bond authorization (one of the funding challenges has been meeting the conditions in that bond authorization) which was very explicitly not expected to cover full construction cost of the system (nor was there ever a 10 year timeline.)