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Fictional is not always "wrong" or "false" as you claim. There are so many fictional books which have so much to teach. You can think of Star Wars how you lik

Fictional is not always "wrong" or "false" as you claim. There are so many fictional books which have so much to teach. You can think of Star Wars how you like, but condemning fictional stories as bad only because they are no "true" stories -- is very short-sighted in my eyes. (and in my opinion a totally wrong understanding of the principles of logic). There are also so many "true" stories, where you can draw the wrong ethics from!! (newest events included!)

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Anderkent 10y ago
The problem of course is that even if some fictional stories contain the right moral lessons, the ones that would work out in the real world, you can't tell them from the ones that are 'wrong' and 'false'. At best you can find stories that tell lessons you already agree with. And while 'real' stories might still be doctored by the writer to send a particular message and mislead you to a conclusion, at least they're constrained by the facts.
- PythonicAlpha 10y ago
  Even, when you have a totally true and unbiased report of a true story, will it always lead to the right ethics? I very much doubt so. There where to many people living, that brought suffering to others without ever been punished. Many people that slaughtered others, where living a wealthy life till their end. And others, that did good, ended in poverty. No, "true" life sometimes teaches the wrong ethics. Or should we find our ethics in slaughtering each others?
  - stale2002 10y ago
    Just because something is abhorrent doesn't make it "false". Bad people get away with terrible things all the time. No amount of moralizing changes this true fact.
    - PythonicAlpha 10y ago
      I don't know, which kind of ethics you would prefer.
      - stale2002 10y ago
        The one that doesn't lie to me? Just because it is possible to get away with bad things, doesn't mean you should do them. A good ethics system should address this.

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Anderkent 10y ago

The problem of course is that even if some fictional stories contain the right moral lessons, the ones that would work out in the real world, you can't tell them from the ones that are 'wrong' and 'false'. At best you can find stories that tell lessons you already agree with. And while 'real' stories might still be doctored by the writer to send a particular message and mislead you to a conclusion, at least they're constrained by the facts.

PythonicAlpha 10y ago
Even, when you have a totally true and unbiased report of a true story, will it always lead to the right ethics? I very much doubt so. There where to many people living, that brought suffering to others without ever been punished. Many people that slaughtered others, where living a wealthy life till their end. And others, that did good, ended in poverty. No, "true" life sometimes teaches the wrong ethics. Or should we find our ethics in slaughtering each others?
- stale2002 10y ago
  Just because something is abhorrent doesn't make it "false". Bad people get away with terrible things all the time. No amount of moralizing changes this true fact.
  - PythonicAlpha 10y ago
    I don't know, which kind of ethics you would prefer.
    - stale2002 10y ago
      The one that doesn't lie to me? Just because it is possible to get away with bad things, doesn't mean you should do them. A good ethics system should address this.