> Did you read the article? I say that because it wasn't about New Yorkers hating cars, it was about auto manufacturers deciding that Americans are going to be

> Did you read the article? I say that because it wasn't about New Yorkers hating cars, it was about auto manufacturers deciding that Americans are going to be buying a lot fewer cars in the future, and then gave Los Angeles as an example of why. I saw the part about buying fewer cars, etc. But flying over NYC and the NYT at 20,000 feet and also from decades of history I concluded that the NYT was eager to draw their conclusion about "fewer cars," in LA, Boston, NYC, because -- right -- the NYT hates cars and likes to fabricate silly stories to grab eyeballs. I did not address the idea that people will be buying fewer cars because that seems to me to be beyond absurd, in NYC, Boston, and especially LA, although for different reasons especially between NYC and LA. Indeed, IMHO, a significant fraction of the cars being sold now will get dumped relatively soon -- causing people to buy more cars instead of fewer -- because of the long list of electronic this and that that will fail and need maintenance -- before the shocks, suspension bushings, engine, transmission, brakes, and corrosion problems -- but where owners will discover that in the car industry good maintenance on such electronics is difficult to find and expensive. Heck, one car repair guy thought that connecting my radio antenna might give him an electric shock! E.g., one bright guy I know with experience just flatly states "Never own a BMW out of warranty." For car manufacturers looking into self driving cars, all electric cars, super small cars (pregnant roller skates), cars with solar panels on the roof, hydrogen powered cars, cars that burn corn stalks, cars with pedals for driving up hill, etc., sure, they have to stay informed. Maybe, maybe, maybe, against nearly all common sense, the NYT, etc. will talk enough people with enough money into buying goofy, far out cars, and in that case the car manufacturers want to be in position to sell such cars. No way can I believe that the big collection of goofy cars will become significant. Uh, I'm a car nut, e.g., once was made a Full Member of the SAE. To me, finding anything at all realistic about cars in the NYT is like looking for Levi's 501 blue jeans on the runway of a NYC fashion show! Or, the NYT is having fun saying that the cars they hate are on the way out. Wrong. The NYT is on the way out.