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Category theory and some advanced Haskell I feel that such knowledge is eternal. It won't be obsolete in 2027. ReactJS on the other hand ...

brudgers 10y ago
The architecture underpinning ReactJS offers some generally useful abstractions (that have appeared previously in other forms). The difficulties arise when the implementation of abstractions are viewed as a magical property of some programming languages rather than others. It doesn't matter whether it's 'object orientated' or 'functional' or 'one way data flow'.
- rrradical 10y ago
  Yes. I wrote 5000 lines on this (and bringing that abstraction to Haskell). [1] 1: http://asivitz.com/posts/layers http://asivitz.com/posts/layers
johnfn 10y ago
Counterpoint: ReactJS solves a lot of engineers' problems in a clean and elegant way. Even if it goes away, the ideas behind it will continue to be good ones. There's nothing wrong with Haskell, but I think that a lot of people mythologize it because it's not used by many people and has an air of academia. A lot of people do the opposite to ReactJS because it's a popular framework that a lot of people use. It has no mythos. Of course, mythos is orthogonal to actually having practical, useful ideas.
- bbcbasic 10y ago
  Sure I'm not against reactjs and that is just one example. It's a good framework to solve problems, but I doubt I'll get deeper insights from learning it.
williamle8300 10y ago
Have you tried using ReactJS?
bojo 10y ago
I have these same exact goals myself. Happy learning!
omginternets 10y ago
I've literally just started doing this, starting with category theory. Here's what I've been watching: - https://youtu.be/I8LbkfSSR58?list=PLbgaMIhjbmEnaH_LTkxLI7FMa2HsnawM_ https://youtu.be/I8LbkfSSR58?list=PLbgaMIhjbmEnaH_LTkxLI7FMa... - https://www.infoq.com/presentations/category-theory-propositions-principle https://www.infoq.com/presentations/category-theory-proposit... I'm very, very, very open to suggestions... especially if they're presented from the ground up, and in lots of detail. I'm also quite open to material that can be read rather than watched.
- j2kun 10y ago
  Go read the first few chapters of Algebra Chapter 0, and do the exercises. There's a free copy online somewhere... This is the book that really demystifies it from the ground up.
  - omginternets 10y ago
    Thanks for the suggestion. Is this [0] the book in question? [0] https://zr9558.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/algebra-chapter-0-aluffi.pdf https://zr9558.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/algebra-chapter-0...
    - omginternets 10y ago
      Replying to my own post to say that this book is fantastic. Thank you!
      - j2kun 10y ago
        Exactly how I felt the first time I read it :)

brudgers 10y ago

The architecture underpinning ReactJS offers some generally useful abstractions (that have appeared previously in other forms). The difficulties arise when the implementation of abstractions are viewed as a magical property of some programming languages rather than others. It doesn't matter whether it's 'object orientated' or 'functional' or 'one way data flow'.

rrradical 10y ago
Yes. I wrote 5000 lines on this (and bringing that abstraction to Haskell). [1] 1: http://asivitz.com/posts/layers http://asivitz.com/posts/layers

johnfn 10y ago

Counterpoint: ReactJS solves a lot of engineers' problems in a clean and elegant way. Even if it goes away, the ideas behind it will continue to be good ones. There's nothing wrong with Haskell, but I think that a lot of people mythologize it because it's not used by many people and has an air of academia. A lot of people do the opposite to ReactJS because it's a popular framework that a lot of people use. It has no mythos. Of course, mythos is orthogonal to actually having practical, useful ideas.

bbcbasic 10y ago
Sure I'm not against reactjs and that is just one example. It's a good framework to solve problems, but I doubt I'll get deeper insights from learning it.

williamle8300 10y ago

Have you tried using ReactJS?

bojo 10y ago

I have these same exact goals myself. Happy learning!

omginternets 10y ago

I've literally just started doing this, starting with category theory. Here's what I've been watching: - https://youtu.be/I8LbkfSSR58?list=PLbgaMIhjbmEnaH_LTkxLI7FMa2HsnawM_ https://youtu.be/I8LbkfSSR58?list=PLbgaMIhjbmEnaH_LTkxLI7FMa... - https://www.infoq.com/presentations/category-theory-propositions-principle https://www.infoq.com/presentations/category-theory-proposit... I'm very, very, very open to suggestions... especially if they're presented from the ground up, and in lots of detail. I'm also quite open to material that can be read rather than watched.

j2kun 10y ago
Go read the first few chapters of Algebra Chapter 0, and do the exercises. There's a free copy online somewhere... This is the book that really demystifies it from the ground up.
- omginternets 10y ago
  Thanks for the suggestion. Is this [0] the book in question? [0] https://zr9558.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/algebra-chapter-0-aluffi.pdf https://zr9558.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/algebra-chapter-0...
  - omginternets 10y ago
    Replying to my own post to say that this book is fantastic. Thank you!
    - j2kun 10y ago
      Exactly how I felt the first time I read it :)