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Not that simple. You visit FB, then visit some other site. Your visit to that other website causes FB to subscribe you to an app of the site that has access to

by mrvir 16y ago

Not that simple. You visit FB, then visit some other site. Your visit to that other website causes FB to subscribe you to an app of the site that has access to your data. How much profiling and tracking is reasonable to expect? Are other services doing this?

DanielBMarkham 16y ago
Are other services tracking you across sites? Well, any sort of javascript that loads in on a page that comes from a central location could track you across sites. Advertisers have long tracked you. Google tracks you on the search, their browser tracks you on each page you visit, and Analytics tracks all site activity. A lot of browsers track you and provide feedback like PageRank. All of these are free applications. Perhaps this is the special case of 1) It being a web app, and 2) changing terms without notifying the user I dunno. But I know lots of free services that you can sign up for (or not) track you in a lot of places you wouldn't expect. The difference is that you don't have this nifty little page to go to where you can see it all happening.
- fnid2 16y ago
  In this case, Google is even worse because you don't even have to use google to be tracked by their systems. You can avoid facebook's privacy violations by not using facebook, but you can't avoid google's privacy violations even if you don't use google. You have to explicitly block their ad servers to do that and they have lots and relatively noone knows how to do it.
  - DanielBMarkham 16y ago
    You sir are correct. There is a bit of distorted thinking and mob mentality going on here. It's beginning to seem like every other week the tech community is out with torches and pitchforks. Kind of a "burn the witch!" thing going on. I use FB, but I think it's model is about as evil as it can get, and that was before this happened. I'll be happy when we have some options. I don't mind everybody piling on, but it is interesting to note the vast amount of inconsistencies in people's thinking. For me, I can handle the app stuff -- it's the use of my friends to make me act against my own interests that I find truly diabolic.

by mrvir 16y ago

DanielBMarkham 16y ago

Are other services tracking you across sites? Well, any sort of javascript that loads in on a page that comes from a central location could track you across sites. Advertisers have long tracked you. Google tracks you on the search, their browser tracks you on each page you visit, and Analytics tracks all site activity. A lot of browsers track you and provide feedback like PageRank. All of these are free applications. Perhaps this is the special case of 1) It being a web app, and 2) changing terms without notifying the user I dunno. But I know lots of free services that you can sign up for (or not) track you in a lot of places you wouldn't expect. The difference is that you don't have this nifty little page to go to where you can see it all happening.

fnid2 16y ago
In this case, Google is even worse because you don't even have to use google to be tracked by their systems. You can avoid facebook's privacy violations by not using facebook, but you can't avoid google's privacy violations even if you don't use google. You have to explicitly block their ad servers to do that and they have lots and relatively noone knows how to do it.
- DanielBMarkham 16y ago
  You sir are correct. There is a bit of distorted thinking and mob mentality going on here. It's beginning to seem like every other week the tech community is out with torches and pitchforks. Kind of a "burn the witch!" thing going on. I use FB, but I think it's model is about as evil as it can get, and that was before this happened. I'll be happy when we have some options. I don't mind everybody piling on, but it is interesting to note the vast amount of inconsistencies in people's thinking. For me, I can handle the app stuff -- it's the use of my friends to make me act against my own interests that I find truly diabolic.