I kind of agree in the "depends on the unwillingness of some participants" however to play is to often discover the boundaries and the rules of the game. As peo

I kind of agree in the "depends on the unwillingness of some participants" however to play is to often discover the boundaries and the rules of the game. As people often discover in sports, the rules aren't what is written in the little referees book. After all 'griefing' or as sports people call it, fouling, is very much a part of the tactics, Many players have made a career and been rewarded for being good at it. Again, I am not condoning it, I am just expressing that 'griefing' is probably within the boundaries of 'play', while for example, I tend to find that direct trolling and personal insults or threats are not as they are designed to directly injure someones concept of them selves or their world. Perhaps we just draw the boundary at slightly different places, however society usually accepts kicking someones sandcastle down more than punching them in the face. For what it counts I eventually classified griefing as a relatively immature behaviour, although games like Neocron, where 'griefing' or in other words all out PVP was allowable, were interesting. I much prefer your fireworks example lol.