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A simple linkedin search returns about a hundred. With the total number of employees about two hundred and the company having been around for about five years,

A simple linkedin search returns about a hundred. With the total number of employees about two hundred and the company having been around for about five years, it's hardly comparable to Blizzard, which has thousands of employees and contractors and had been there for decades.

scrollaway 10y ago
The point I failed to make is that high (double digit) employee turnover is extremely common in game dev, especially at low ranks; and unlike Blizzard, CIG is not an exceptional place to work at. If you want to see what "people jumping ship" looks like, you should be directing your eyes towards Zynga: Constant layoffs, extremely high turnover including the executive level and plummeting revenue. Nothing like CIG.
- pandaman 10y ago
  High turnover is indeed extremely common in the games industry but I fail to see how it excludes a failure. It is common because failure is also extremely common. How the fact that Zynga is a sinking ship and displays the same signs as the CIG does is filling one with optimism about CIG?
  - scrollaway 10y ago
    Because it doesn't display the same signs as CIG. Zero executive turnover. Much lower employee turnover. Steady revenue. I feel like I'm talking to an aquarium.
    - pandaman 10y ago
      Zero executive turnover I just found one in 5 seconds on linkedin. You could too if you did not imagine yourself talking to an aquarium. https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-mayberry-166325 https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-mayberry-166325 Much lower employee turnover In absolute numbers? Sure. A company with several thousands employees will have higher number of people leaving over longer time even if it's doing great than a failing company with a couple hundred total employees. I guess this is what makes you optimistic? Because relative to their workforce they churn through a huge number of people. At this time every game studio in Santa Monica has few people from there. Steady revenue Are there numbers for CIG? I thought it's a private company and its revenue numbers are not available. What source do you base your assertion on?
      - scrollaway 10y ago
        Are you serious? Mayberry leaving is from 2015. You're not proving your point here. > Are there numbers for CIG Yes. Nearly all of their revenue is from Star Citizen. And that's public.
        pandaman 10y ago
        Sorry, I've lost you completely. You had been talking about turnover right at this moment? In this case Zynga is peachy, they have not had a layoff today and no executives have left today either. As for revenue, I am not sure what you mean. Is there some public record of their revenue? If so, please show me. JFYI, somebody saying "I've made a gazillion dollars!" is not a public record of making a gazillion dollars.

scrollaway 10y ago

The point I failed to make is that high (double digit) employee turnover is extremely common in game dev, especially at low ranks; and unlike Blizzard, CIG is not an exceptional place to work at. If you want to see what "people jumping ship" looks like, you should be directing your eyes towards Zynga: Constant layoffs, extremely high turnover including the executive level and plummeting revenue. Nothing like CIG.

pandaman 10y ago
High turnover is indeed extremely common in the games industry but I fail to see how it excludes a failure. It is common because failure is also extremely common. How the fact that Zynga is a sinking ship and displays the same signs as the CIG does is filling one with optimism about CIG?
- scrollaway 10y ago
  Because it doesn't display the same signs as CIG. Zero executive turnover. Much lower employee turnover. Steady revenue. I feel like I'm talking to an aquarium.
  - pandaman 10y ago
    Zero executive turnover I just found one in 5 seconds on linkedin. You could too if you did not imagine yourself talking to an aquarium. https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-mayberry-166325 https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-mayberry-166325 Much lower employee turnover In absolute numbers? Sure. A company with several thousands employees will have higher number of people leaving over longer time even if it's doing great than a failing company with a couple hundred total employees. I guess this is what makes you optimistic? Because relative to their workforce they churn through a huge number of people. At this time every game studio in Santa Monica has few people from there. Steady revenue Are there numbers for CIG? I thought it's a private company and its revenue numbers are not available. What source do you base your assertion on?
    - scrollaway 10y ago
      Are you serious? Mayberry leaving is from 2015. You're not proving your point here. > Are there numbers for CIG Yes. Nearly all of their revenue is from Star Citizen. And that's public.
      - pandaman 10y ago
        Sorry, I've lost you completely. You had been talking about turnover right at this moment? In this case Zynga is peachy, they have not had a layoff today and no executives have left today either. As for revenue, I am not sure what you mean. Is there some public record of their revenue? If so, please show me. JFYI, somebody saying "I've made a gazillion dollars!" is not a public record of making a gazillion dollars.