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Blizzard actually puts on new games, content for their games, and turns an enormous profit. So no they are not. I am really curious if you are either an employ

by ssully 10y ago

Blizzard actually puts on new games, content for their games, and turns an enormous profit. So no they are not. I am really curious if you are either an employee at CIG or just a really passionate backer of the project based on your unrelenting defense here. I am not sure why you are surprised by the candor of the comments here - CIG is seen as a running train on fire and is quite literally a joke in the gaming industry. It's unfortunate for those who work there and the people who want the game to succeed, but CIG has earned this reputation.

scrollaway 10y ago
I'm not affiliated with CIG (edit: I am an early backer as I mentioned elsewhere), but I am passionate because I work in the games industry and I see what CIG is doing as incredibly beneficial to the industry; open development is huge for both studios and consumers but it needs all the love it can get. So I'd really love a source for your "is seen as a joke in the gaming industry", because that is not at all what it's like here and is making me doubt your intentions. CIG is producing a game that people are passionate about years before it's released, completely self-funded and all that off a kickstarter. They're the reason Kickstarter got so popular in the gaming industry: everybody wants to be them.
- blakeyrat 10y ago
  I agree it's beneficial but not for the reasons you think: it's turning thousands of people away from the ill-conceived crowd-funding model of game development. BTW it has roughly about $140 MILLION of "all the love it can get". Does it really need any more than that? It has enough. That's well more than Skyrim's budget. > They're the reason Kickstarter got so popular in the gaming industry: everybody wants to be them. If you're backing Star Citizen because you think it proves the crowd-funding model, I'm sorry to break this to you, but it's more likely people in the know are rejecting the crowd-funding model due to Star Citizen, not signing up for it.
  - scrollaway 10y ago
    > it's more likely people in the know are rejecting the crowd-funding model due to Star Citizen, not signing up for it. And your source for that nonsensical statement is? Star Citizen is the most successful crowdfunded project to date and second most successful kickstarter project at the time of its completion (after Oculus Rift). The two successes together that year were what made Kickstarter famous and turned it from a niche site to "the american dream 2.0" where anyone's greatest ideas can be funded. I don't care about the crowdfunding model and you're completely mistaken about my reasons on why I backed Star Citizen. I don't particularly like or dislike it and I do appreciate your stance that you prefer buying the finished product - I think it's a healthy stance. But your comment on people rejecting the crowd funding model "due to star citizen" is absolute nonsense. And so is your comment on budgeting, by the way - You should keep in mind that the number on there isn't "Star Citizen's budget", it's CIG's budget. There's no particular point in time where anyone says "Alright guys, time to pack up, stop making sales, we'll do with the money we have right now because it's more than enough to finish the game".
    - nrjdhsbsid 10y ago
      Most successful? Measured in what, money spent? I'm sure other kick-started projects are more successful in that they actually produced a product that resulted in profitability.
      - scrollaway 10y ago
        Please stop trolling and read my actual post.
        adamgray 10y ago
        I don't see the trolling? How is Star Citizen the most successful crowdfunded game? It's still not released.
        scrollaway 10y ago

by ssully 10y ago

scrollaway 10y ago

I'm not affiliated with CIG (edit: I am an early backer as I mentioned elsewhere), but I am passionate because I work in the games industry and I see what CIG is doing as incredibly beneficial to the industry; open development is huge for both studios and consumers but it needs all the love it can get. So I'd really love a source for your "is seen as a joke in the gaming industry", because that is not at all what it's like here and is making me doubt your intentions. CIG is producing a game that people are passionate about years before it's released, completely self-funded and all that off a kickstarter. They're the reason Kickstarter got so popular in the gaming industry: everybody wants to be them.

blakeyrat 10y ago
I agree it's beneficial but not for the reasons you think: it's turning thousands of people away from the ill-conceived crowd-funding model of game development. BTW it has roughly about $140 MILLION of "all the love it can get". Does it really need any more than that? It has enough. That's well more than Skyrim's budget. > They're the reason Kickstarter got so popular in the gaming industry: everybody wants to be them. If you're backing Star Citizen because you think it proves the crowd-funding model, I'm sorry to break this to you, but it's more likely people in the know are rejecting the crowd-funding model due to Star Citizen, not signing up for it.
- scrollaway 10y ago
  > it's more likely people in the know are rejecting the crowd-funding model due to Star Citizen, not signing up for it. And your source for that nonsensical statement is? Star Citizen is the most successful crowdfunded project to date and second most successful kickstarter project at the time of its completion (after Oculus Rift). The two successes together that year were what made Kickstarter famous and turned it from a niche site to "the american dream 2.0" where anyone's greatest ideas can be funded. I don't care about the crowdfunding model and you're completely mistaken about my reasons on why I backed Star Citizen. I don't particularly like or dislike it and I do appreciate your stance that you prefer buying the finished product - I think it's a healthy stance. But your comment on people rejecting the crowd funding model "due to star citizen" is absolute nonsense. And so is your comment on budgeting, by the way - You should keep in mind that the number on there isn't "Star Citizen's budget", it's CIG's budget. There's no particular point in time where anyone says "Alright guys, time to pack up, stop making sales, we'll do with the money we have right now because it's more than enough to finish the game".
  - nrjdhsbsid 10y ago
    Most successful? Measured in what, money spent? I'm sure other kick-started projects are more successful in that they actually produced a product that resulted in profitability.
    - scrollaway 10y ago
      Please stop trolling and read my actual post.
      - adamgray 10y ago
        I don't see the trolling? How is Star Citizen the most successful crowdfunded game? It's still not released.
        scrollaway 10y ago