I didn't mean to accuse you of being "tinfoil", I'm sorry if it came across that way. HN may be very reasonable compared to the average when it comes to Snowde

I didn't mean to accuse you of being "tinfoil", I'm sorry if it came across that way. HN may be very reasonable compared to the average when it comes to Snowden and dragnet surveillance, but the existance of that surveillance has been plausible and even likely for a long time before Snowden came, and before Snowden it was considered tinfoil by most (I heard) that knew of the possibility at all. It is now "in" or "socially acceptable" to acknowledge this possibilty now, though once you start thinking about it and try to find ways of living that reflect this knowledge (e.g. refusing to use smartphones, social media or the internet in general) you again tend to enter "considered tinfoil territory". What I'm trying to say is, I think "tinfoil" is mostly a label used to stigmatize and supress a concept or person, based on social convention or "perceived consensus" (which is manipulated by media, which are manipulated by all entities with enough power and the incentive to do so). I perceived GGP to be at risk of that and wanted to indicate that in my comment. Kind of like how saying the Intel ME is a backdoor is viewed now (while it is literally an autonomous remote management module, that is included in almost every consumer PC and which cannot be removed or inspected). That's why I don't trust other people's opinion on what is "tinfoil", and can be a little cynical about it.