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Fair enough, I guess. http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/seven-nobel-laureates-in-science-who-either-supported-intelligent-design-or-attacked-da

by ikeboy 10y ago

Fair enough, I guess. http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/seven-nobel-laureates-in-science-who-either-supported-intelligent-design-or-attacked-darwinian-evolution/ http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/seven-nobe... might change your mind on whether there are smart YECs. Apparently the inventor of the MRI machine was one.

lisper 10y ago
Like I said, there are exceptions to every rule. There might be smart YEC's, but to me it's a very strong counterindication. Also, that's far from the only evidence there is with regards to Ben Carson. Try searching for "stupid things Ben Carson has said" some time.
- Godel_unicode 10y ago
  You are aware of the correlation between being smart and thinking things which aren't true, right? Smart people are very good at rationalizing.
  - lisper 10y ago
    No, that's news to me. Do tell me more.
    - Malician 10y ago
      People have beliefs and goal functions (religious - obey God; love / protect spouse and family; acquire money and power; maintain health and increase status, and positive image of self.) A powerful brain is like an engine with more horsepower and torque - like a fast car, if you're going the wrong way it will just get you there even faster. It's very human to be unwilling to admit error or change your mind. The smarter you are, the more tools you have at your disposal to reason out complicated methods by which you may be correct. Of course, if your position is untenable enough, even these methods will appear ludicrous from the outside. You can, therefore, be an excellent doctor and even develop new methods for brain surgery while being simultaneously unwilling to drop absurd beliefs inculcated into you during childhood. Yes, you sound stupid to everyone else, but if you've extended and reinforced these beliefs over your entire lifetime you may be so unwilling to drop them that ridicule isn't enough of a push.

by ikeboy 10y ago

lisper 10y ago

Like I said, there are exceptions to every rule. There might be smart YEC's, but to me it's a very strong counterindication. Also, that's far from the only evidence there is with regards to Ben Carson. Try searching for "stupid things Ben Carson has said" some time.

Godel_unicode 10y ago
You are aware of the correlation between being smart and thinking things which aren't true, right? Smart people are very good at rationalizing.
- lisper 10y ago
  No, that's news to me. Do tell me more.
  - Malician 10y ago
    People have beliefs and goal functions (religious - obey God; love / protect spouse and family; acquire money and power; maintain health and increase status, and positive image of self.) A powerful brain is like an engine with more horsepower and torque - like a fast car, if you're going the wrong way it will just get you there even faster. It's very human to be unwilling to admit error or change your mind. The smarter you are, the more tools you have at your disposal to reason out complicated methods by which you may be correct. Of course, if your position is untenable enough, even these methods will appear ludicrous from the outside. You can, therefore, be an excellent doctor and even develop new methods for brain surgery while being simultaneously unwilling to drop absurd beliefs inculcated into you during childhood. Yes, you sound stupid to everyone else, but if you've extended and reinforced these beliefs over your entire lifetime you may be so unwilling to drop them that ridicule isn't enough of a push.