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...except non-local variables. Which is why I keep mentioning non-locality. I don't think words are working and I'm not sure I understand your point fully. Cou
by SomeStupidPoint 10y ago
...except non-local variables. Which is why I keep mentioning non-locality.
I don't think words are working and I'm not sure I understand your point fully. Could you draw a diagram? Specifically, the apparatus and where you think the requirement for information occurs.
I really do want to understand your point, because it's an interesting argument, even if I'm not sure I agree.
- lisper 10y ago> I don't think words are working Indeed. I have no idea what you mean by "non-local variable." You should read this: http://www.scottaaronson.com/democritus/lec11.html http://www.scottaaronson.com/democritus/lec11.html just to make sure we're on the same page about the basics. (Pay particular attention to the part starting with "No-go theorems galore".)
- SomeStupidPoint 10y agoCould you point out what you think that has to do with locality? It mentions it once, to assert it as a desired axiom (and incorrectly assert that QM can be local, which it can't be). I also would argue that GR supports non-local theories well enough, in that the actual geometry can appear macro-Euclidean (or other nice space) while containing micro-bridges which break the locality structure for the "nice" macro space. A non-local value is any value which can impact things at super-luminal speed (generally, instantaneously). Of course, I would argue that the non-locality is only apparent, and we're simply seeing the shape of things very wrong because of how brains work, the information reaches us, etc.
- lisper 10y ago> A non-local value is any value which can impact things at super-luminal speed Ah. Those are ruled out by relativity. If you can send information faster than light, then you can send information backwards in time and violate causality.