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I feel that the younger generation has very little to no feelings of prejudice towards ethnic or sexual groups. I'm talking as a teenager myself. It's more the

I feel that the younger generation has very little to no feelings of prejudice towards ethnic or sexual groups. I'm talking as a teenager myself. It's more the older people that generally discriminate. It's possible that, over time, the problem will solve itself.

FrancoDiaz 10y ago
I feel that the younger generation has very little to no feelings of prejudice towards ethnic or sexual groups. That's only two forms of discrimination. Everybody discriminates.
- pokemongoaway 10y ago
  When you say everyone discriminates... Do you mean based on ethnicity and gender? Mind mentioning where you live and your ethnicity and gender?
  - pimlottc 10y ago
    He means people discriminate on many other qualities and factors: age, class, profession, religion, appearance, language, grammar, accent, weight, education, political party, musical taste, programming language, text editor, etc...
Retric 10y ago
It's very useful for people with followers to promote an out group. This is just as true of high school politics as presidential elections. "It's them damn foreigners!" Tends to quickly move into racial or ethnic lines.
8ytecoder 10y ago
Not a snark - it is also possible that over time interactions with a few individuals could change you enough to ostracize entire groups - unless you explicitly guard against that.
- douche 10y ago
  You can only deal with so many terrible people before you write off the entire cultural or ethnic group
  - Spivak 10y ago
    This is the one I really don't relate to. There are plenty of terrible people in the world of every possible classification. I am always saddened when someone judges me because they had bad experiences with people of similar characteristics. I would never want to put someone else in that situation.
  - Buge 10y ago
    I would probably just write off all of humanity at that point.
  - GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
    I've met lots and lots of horrible white dudes in the tech industry, but that doesn't stop me from assuming that new people I meet who fit that profile aren't terrible.
a_imho 10y ago
has very little to no feelings of prejudice towards ethnic or sexual groups. ... It's more the older people that generally discriminate. It is a snark, but it sure sounds like prejudice to me, and I'm fairly young myself.
nommm-nommm 10y ago
This actually seems to be moving in the other direction... https://hbr.org/2016/09/why-more-american-men-feel-discriminated-against https://hbr.org/2016/09/why-more-american-men-feel-discrimin... >Perhaps more important, though, researchers have found that men are prone to seeing discrimination as a zero-sum game. That is, they believe that discrimination against one group necessarily benefits another group and vice versa, so any policy that benefits African-Americans, for instance, harms whites, and any policy that benefits women amounts to discrimination against men. Fifteen years ago, younger men — and women of all ages — overwhelmingly rejected this view, but recent data shows that younger white men are now about as likely as older men to see discrimination as zero-sum.
- chipperyman573 10y ago
  That might be because, in a lot of ways, it i̶s̶ can be true. If I (a white man) don't get selected for a job because of a diversity program that requires that x% of workers be a PoC, it does actively harm me because I would have (possibly) otherwise have been chosen for that job. I'm not saying that this is always the case (or even that it usually is), but this scenario wasn't true 15 or 20 years ago.
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  - vertex-four 10y ago
    For the record, as a social justice type, I think that the solution to diversity issues in the workplace isn't to enforce percentage figures - it's to figure out why the workplace isn't attracting members of X group, change it so that it is, and actively seek out applications from diverse communities. If you're doing everything right, you should almost naturally wind up with a diverse workplace. Of course, guess which of these choices is the cheapest and requires the least amount of change in culture. One can also be imposed top-down while the other requires cultural buy-in in the first place.
    - chongli 10y ago
simonw 10y ago
I'm afraid you're in for a nasty shock. I used to believe the same - it wasn't until my late 20s that I began to realize quite how much prejudice remains in the world. Now I'm in my 30s I see it everywhere, and I'm shocked at how much I missed when I was growing up.
PhasmaFelis 10y ago
Perhaps none of the young people that you hang out with are bigots. Don't let that become a convenient excuse to ignore all the bigotry happening just outside of your sight--and, especially, far from progressive urban centers.
edblarney 10y ago
" It's more the older people that generally discriminate." I believe younger people are often ageist, and also discriminate based on ideology, behaviours etc.. I also believe that though younger people have no resentment towards other races/genders, that they may have some systematically racial behaviours they are not yet developed the 'self awareness' of. Finally, I'd suggest that a lot of 'systematic racism' - which definitely exists - may not be as perniciously bad as we think - it may have more to do with 'self selecting' behaviours. In Toronto, there is a strong 'Chinese community', 'Italian community'. They tend to stick to themselves a little more. Basically all of the 'roofers' in my hood were Italian. It's a stereotype but true. They hire their buds, and buds of buds. Nothing wrong with that. (I lived in the 'Italian community' and felt like an outsider, though I never minded it). When this kind of soft ethnocentrism is exhibited by a 'majority group' - it might be perceived as something different, i.e. derogatory, or 'racist'. I think that the subject of this article would make a really great film ...

FrancoDiaz 10y ago

I feel that the younger generation has very little to no feelings of prejudice towards ethnic or sexual groups. That's only two forms of discrimination. Everybody discriminates.

pokemongoaway 10y ago
When you say everyone discriminates... Do you mean based on ethnicity and gender? Mind mentioning where you live and your ethnicity and gender?
- pimlottc 10y ago
  He means people discriminate on many other qualities and factors: age, class, profession, religion, appearance, language, grammar, accent, weight, education, political party, musical taste, programming language, text editor, etc...

Retric 10y ago

It's very useful for people with followers to promote an out group. This is just as true of high school politics as presidential elections. "It's them damn foreigners!" Tends to quickly move into racial or ethnic lines.

8ytecoder 10y ago

Not a snark - it is also possible that over time interactions with a few individuals could change you enough to ostracize entire groups - unless you explicitly guard against that.

douche 10y ago
You can only deal with so many terrible people before you write off the entire cultural or ethnic group
- Spivak 10y ago
  This is the one I really don't relate to. There are plenty of terrible people in the world of every possible classification. I am always saddened when someone judges me because they had bad experiences with people of similar characteristics. I would never want to put someone else in that situation.
- Buge 10y ago
  I would probably just write off all of humanity at that point.
- GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
  I've met lots and lots of horrible white dudes in the tech industry, but that doesn't stop me from assuming that new people I meet who fit that profile aren't terrible.

a_imho 10y ago

has very little to no feelings of prejudice towards ethnic or sexual groups. ... It's more the older people that generally discriminate. It is a snark, but it sure sounds like prejudice to me, and I'm fairly young myself.

nommm-nommm 10y ago

This actually seems to be moving in the other direction... https://hbr.org/2016/09/why-more-american-men-feel-discriminated-against https://hbr.org/2016/09/why-more-american-men-feel-discrimin... >Perhaps more important, though, researchers have found that men are prone to seeing discrimination as a zero-sum game. That is, they believe that discrimination against one group necessarily benefits another group and vice versa, so any policy that benefits African-Americans, for instance, harms whites, and any policy that benefits women amounts to discrimination against men. Fifteen years ago, younger men — and women of all ages — overwhelmingly rejected this view, but recent data shows that younger white men are now about as likely as older men to see discrimination as zero-sum.

chipperyman573 10y ago
That might be because, in a lot of ways, it i̶s̶ can be true. If I (a white man) don't get selected for a job because of a diversity program that requires that x% of workers be a PoC, it does actively harm me because I would have (possibly) otherwise have been chosen for that job. I'm not saying that this is always the case (or even that it usually is), but this scenario wasn't true 15 or 20 years ago.
- deleted 10y ago
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- vertex-four 10y ago
  For the record, as a social justice type, I think that the solution to diversity issues in the workplace isn't to enforce percentage figures - it's to figure out why the workplace isn't attracting members of X group, change it so that it is, and actively seek out applications from diverse communities. If you're doing everything right, you should almost naturally wind up with a diverse workplace. Of course, guess which of these choices is the cheapest and requires the least amount of change in culture. One can also be imposed top-down while the other requires cultural buy-in in the first place.
  - chongli 10y ago

simonw 10y ago

I'm afraid you're in for a nasty shock. I used to believe the same - it wasn't until my late 20s that I began to realize quite how much prejudice remains in the world. Now I'm in my 30s I see it everywhere, and I'm shocked at how much I missed when I was growing up.

PhasmaFelis 10y ago

Perhaps none of the young people that you hang out with are bigots. Don't let that become a convenient excuse to ignore all the bigotry happening just outside of your sight--and, especially, far from progressive urban centers.

edblarney 10y ago

" It's more the older people that generally discriminate." I believe younger people are often ageist, and also discriminate based on ideology, behaviours etc.. I also believe that though younger people have no resentment towards other races/genders, that they may have some systematically racial behaviours they are not yet developed the 'self awareness' of. Finally, I'd suggest that a lot of 'systematic racism' - which definitely exists - may not be as perniciously bad as we think - it may have more to do with 'self selecting' behaviours. In Toronto, there is a strong 'Chinese community', 'Italian community'. They tend to stick to themselves a little more. Basically all of the 'roofers' in my hood were Italian. It's a stereotype but true. They hire their buds, and buds of buds. Nothing wrong with that. (I lived in the 'Italian community' and felt like an outsider, though I never minded it). When this kind of soft ethnocentrism is exhibited by a 'majority group' - it might be perceived as something different, i.e. derogatory, or 'racist'. I think that the subject of this article would make a really great film ...