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>> Lastly, it's just silly and inaccurate to call the iPhone "disposable", when in fact it leads the industry in terms of how long the product lasts, how long t

>> Lastly, it's just silly and inaccurate to call the iPhone "disposable", when in fact it leads the industry in terms of how long the product lasts, how long the OS is supported for older hardware, etc. By a wide margin. That might be the case post iPhone 5 (maybe someone can verify this), but it wasn't the case before that. The last available update of iOS for every model pretty much made the iPhone 4S and earlier unusable to all but the most patient users, and that's with very little software installed.

Bud 10y ago
Wrong; iOS 10 support does extend back to the iPhone 4S. Just Google it for 10 seconds and you will see that. Further, this proves my argument, not yours. Even if you were right and the iPhone 5 was the earliest model now supported, that device is more than FOUR YEARS OLD. There are zero Android phones from 2012 which can run the latest Android version. In fact, I'm not sure that there are even any 2014 devices that can fully update right now. Meanwhile Apple's still supporting a device from 2011, FIVE generations ago. Apple wins here, and it's not close.
- slantyyz 10y ago
  >> Wrong; iOS 10 support does extend back to the iPhone 4S. Just Google it for 10 seconds and you will see that. You misunderstood my point. The last available operating system update on any 4S or earlier tends to be unusable because of performance issues. That's because each successive update adds bloat. I have a clean iPad 1, iPhone 3G, iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S - all with the last available OS updates. They're barely usable as phones unless you have a lot of patience. >> Further, this proves my argument, not yours. Even if you were right and the iPhone 5 was the earliest model now supported, that device is more than FOUR YEARS OLD. There are zero Android phones from 2012 which can run the latest Android version. In fact, I'm not sure that there are even any 2014 devices that can fully update right now. Once again, you misunderstood my point. My mention of the iPhone 5 is as a placeholder for when the iPhone CPUs hit a maturity point in terms of performance where they would probably still be usable on the final version of the operating system that it will support. >> Apple wins here, and it's not close. Nobody's referring to this as contest, but ok, you can have that point if you want.

Bud 10y ago

Wrong; iOS 10 support does extend back to the iPhone 4S. Just Google it for 10 seconds and you will see that. Further, this proves my argument, not yours. Even if you were right and the iPhone 5 was the earliest model now supported, that device is more than FOUR YEARS OLD. There are zero Android phones from 2012 which can run the latest Android version. In fact, I'm not sure that there are even any 2014 devices that can fully update right now. Meanwhile Apple's still supporting a device from 2011, FIVE generations ago. Apple wins here, and it's not close.

slantyyz 10y ago
>> Wrong; iOS 10 support does extend back to the iPhone 4S. Just Google it for 10 seconds and you will see that. You misunderstood my point. The last available operating system update on any 4S or earlier tends to be unusable because of performance issues. That's because each successive update adds bloat. I have a clean iPad 1, iPhone 3G, iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S - all with the last available OS updates. They're barely usable as phones unless you have a lot of patience. >> Further, this proves my argument, not yours. Even if you were right and the iPhone 5 was the earliest model now supported, that device is more than FOUR YEARS OLD. There are zero Android phones from 2012 which can run the latest Android version. In fact, I'm not sure that there are even any 2014 devices that can fully update right now. Once again, you misunderstood my point. My mention of the iPhone 5 is as a placeholder for when the iPhone CPUs hit a maturity point in terms of performance where they would probably still be usable on the final version of the operating system that it will support. >> Apple wins here, and it's not close. Nobody's referring to this as contest, but ok, you can have that point if you want.