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Show HN: Wick – A free and open-source creation suite
- GordonS 10y agoWhat is a 'creation suite'?
- cryptarch 10y agoPretty cool idea, though it's advertised rather vaguely. It's basically an HTML5-based Flash alternative with an HTML5-based editor. The menu bar disappeared after a few seconds and I couldn't get it back, I'm on fresh Chromium.
- SpaceDingus9000 10y agoAgreed, if the creator added something like "media creation suite" instead of "creation suite" it'd be a bit more clear.
- azamat-bagatov 10y agoCreator here! Yup, I'm still trying to find the right wording for it; "media creation suite" is definitely more descriptive! Thx
- DaiPlusPlus 10y ago"Media" is still too vague. I would be blunt and say "Flash-like content authoring tool for HTML5" or "HTML5 Interactive Animation Editor".
- VT_Drew 10y agoNot creator here. "Flash-like content authoring tool for HTML5" isn't catchy at all, that's like calling an iPod "Digital music playing device". Branding and marketing count.
- iNate2000 10y agoYeah - I'd call it "animation" instead of "flash".
- bryanrasmussen 10y agoFlash-like content authoring tool for HTML5 would be a good headline for the Hacker News post, but not for the product.
- IanCal 10y agoI think for a short name, "creation suite" is fine, but a short description on the page would be handy. The demo does help, certainly. Looks interesting, anyway, I'll have to check it out to for playing with.
- radley 10y agoWell, first it's not a "suite" - it's just an app. In the industry we call it a Rich Media Editor. If "rich media" seems too old school, you can call it an HTML5 Media Toolkit.
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- hugs 10y agoThis is awesome! Wick reminds me of HyperCard. I fell in love with programming as a kid because of HyperCard (and its HyperTalk programming language). I hope Wick likewise inspires another generation of hackers.
- hugs 10y agoWhat's the license? (I don't see any explicitly mentioned in the source repo.)
- Jeraimee 10y agoLooks like they just added the LGPL license file.
- azamat-bagatov 10y agoJust now added a GPLv2 - thanks for the heads-up
- xatan_dank 10y agoThis is nice, I really missed the Flash IDE's paradigm for game creation. The timeline and visual nature of the IDE made making a game a hell of a lot easier, especially for people without real CS education (kids). It looks like you write JS with Wick though, which I think is better for kids to learn how to interact with the web than AS3 ever was.
- salzig 10y agoClosed in rage mode on mobile. Zoom disabled? Rly?
- azamat-bagatov 10y agoSorry 'bout that, the mobile website is currently a lil borked
- salzig 10y agosorry for the rude comment. It's hurting me when someone seems to have copy&paste code without reading it, and is killing mobile experience by that. To make it more helpful: Would be nice if you could remove "user-scalable=no" from the <meta name="viewport" ...> value, maybe also the minimum and maximum scale. It's not very helpful to limit the user in it's ability to zoom the page on mobile. Some people don't get the overview they needed, others are unable to read the site because they can't zoom in. So it helps a lot to just remove that limitation.
- hugs 10y agoThanks. That's way more helpful and actionable. I submitted a pull request and now it's merged in. Which device are you using? https://github.com/zrispo/wick/issues/311 https://github.com/zrispo/wick/issues/311 https://github.com/zrispo/wick/commit/78ec7e4929435b2513abba9b3d3d00f401e75923 https://github.com/zrispo/wick/commit/78ec7e4929435b2513abba...
- hugs 10y agoIt looks like it wasn't tested on (or designed for?) mobile. Works great on desktop Chrome, though.
- salzig 10y agoThere is a difference in "not optimized for" and actively killing it with "user-scalable=no".
- Xeoncross 10y agoMinor victory today. After pushing all my keys I finally figured out how to play "Flappy Ghost".
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- dperfect 10y agoThis is great. If it had some basic drawing tools integrated (+ a bit more polish on the UI), it would be a killer tool for kids and non-programmers to get their feet wet with some core programming concepts and visual creativity. It's basically all there right now, but the hassle of creating assets externally and importing them is just an extra barrier that may frustrate inexperienced users.
- luxapodular 10y agoHi dperfect, I'm one of the co-creators of Wick. We're in the process of getting those finished! We'll be tweeting / posting about all of our major updates if you're interested.
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- dfar1 10y ago+1 for reminding me of the flash editor and keyframe animations!
- dkersten 10y agoThis site doesn't work for me on iOS: the content doesn't fit on screen and the scroll is broken (i.e. I cannot scrol at all)
- JLK_121416 10y agoSame for me in chrome on android 6
- erwinkle 10y agoI love the maplestory gifs when you press the right arrow :)
- idreyn 10y agoI love this so much — I got into programming with AS2 in the Flash MX days and although it's great that HTML5 replaced Flash as a platform, the lack of a replacement tool has left a bit of a hole in my creative life. Is there a roadmap for motion tweens?
- luxapodular 10y agoHi idreyn, we actually have motion tweens implemented! (They're just not represented in the GUI as well as they should be yet) We'll have a demo up for them soon!
- idreyn 10y agoThat's great to hear, thanks!
- aub3bhat 10y agoYou might want to take a look at Fabric.js, while it lacks keyframe based animations, it does support other things. http://fabricjs.com/kitchensink http://fabricjs.com/kitchensink
- luxapodular 10y agoHi aub3bhat, We're actually using Fabric.js for the editor canvas!
- WhitneyLand 10y agoNice work, I like it. Two peeves: 1) Mobile is broken (iPad). Maybe you don't expect a lot of mobile users but it's not a lot of extra work, and can be productive for large tablet users. 2) I would prefer that twitter not be used for your dev blog.
- endergen 10y agoI think desktop tools with an easy to version control file format fits better with branch based app development. Use Electron and it's super easy. Automatic updates also
- _lce0 10y agoGood work! I been thinking about self-replicating systems and seems to me that the web could be a great medium for them. A tool that's capable to build itself.
- davegauer 10y agoWick looks like a great start to finally filling that huge, gaping hole where there should be a tool. Thank you for creating this. I hope it becomes hugely popular and quickly becomes a polished tool. I have bookmarked this and will definitely be using it the next time I have my kiddo at the computer so I can show her how to make something move on the screen. Increasingly, I find myself perfectly happy to use online tools for certain tasks. I'm a huge proponent of having local tools, local file storage, and for desktop computing in general. But there are amazing convenience gains to having browser-based applications. That's doubly true for this since the delivery platform is also the browser.
- luxapodular 10y agoThanks for the kind words!
- webwanderings 10y agoI was thinking something along the same lines using Google Drawings. Just the local to cloud clipboard, and smart image/text alignments makes local image editing software (Paint etc) go extinct.
- qwertyuiop924 10y agoIt's good that somebody's trying to fill the (massive) boots of Flash. Yes, flash is clunky, and it's soundly mocked around here for good reason, but it filled a genuine need, and was used to create a lot of cool content (Eddsworld, Animator vs Animation, Weebl's stuff, My Little Pony (yes, really: look it up)), and sparked an age of experimentation in game design, kicked off casual gaming, and allowed easier publication of and access to independant games than ever before (Speaking as one of the many who have lost countless hours to N, Run 2, Meat Boy, FreeRider 2, Fancy Pants Adventures, PacXon, Portal The Flash Version, SHIFT, The World's Hardest Game, This is The Only Level (1, 2, and 3), Exit Path, Escape the <x>, Sushi Cat, and countless other games).
- slackstation 10y agoThis looks like it could be a more modern interpretation of what Apple's Hypercard was trying to be. Flash did this very well but, the technology and corporate ecosystem around it was terrible so it was good that we got rid of it. This seems poised not to have those burdons. I wish the creators of this would do two things: 1. Get a sustainable funding model - Patreon seems pretty good for this. 2. Make indepth user testing (with non-technical people) a heavy priority within their culture. The internet needs something for making media that isn't Adobe or Facebook or Google or Microsoft. Something that is open and financed directly by the people who want to use it and people that care about a free and open internet should happen. If the authors of this project open a Patreon page, I pledge $20/mo for an entire year. I will also match $5/mo for anyone else willing to join me in supporting this project. FYI: I have never met nor spoken to any of the Wick team members. I just got inspired to do something other than just throw out random advice on the internet today. To the Wick team: PM me if you are interested in starting a Patreon.
- azamat-bagatov 10y agoHey! Creator here - I agree, it's super important to get Wick self-sustaining as soon as possible. Part of that is definitely to start getting some core developers involved and having a way to reimburse everyone for their time~~ Hit me up on twitter (@zrispo) or on the github repo, let's talk!
- zhte415 10y agoI balked at the output, which was 1.9MB for KitchenSink.html which showed up in editor as 3,902 lines and 707,605 columns, by simply adding 3 characters to the template provided. Could this be optimised? Having not a single file as output? As much as I dislike CDNs most of the time, if this is to be federated to cache most of this fluff on a central CDN option (or local CDN) seems to be sensible, or at least let it be cached somewhere. ^ Wish to be be critically useful.