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The new 15 inch max specced is $4,299 + tax in the US.

by sprite 10y ago

bpicolo 10y ago
Ah you're right, I had clicked the top end 13 on accident. That's just nuts. The upgrades are a real scam =/
- rch 10y ago
  They've really done their homework though. Price sensitive buyers get to feel frugal for skipping upgrades, while others get to enjoy a premium good. For me it makes sense to max out the options, but just barely.
at-fates-hands 10y ago
WOW. I could spec out a laptop (pick a vendor) with a 500SSD, i7, 32GB RAM and still be under 2K. I don't want to say their hardware is overpriced. . .but they're stuff is WAY over priced. http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-ZBook-Studio-G3-15-6-Core-i7-2-7GHz-32GB-RAM-512GB-SSD-M6V80AV-/232167317067 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-ZBook-Studio-G3-15-6-Core-i7-2-7G... $1,350.00 - HP ZBook Studio G3 - 15.6" - Core i7 2.7GHz (6th Gen) - 32GB RAM - 512GB SSD (M6V80AV) It's a dealer refurb, but still. . .
- bshimmin 10y ago
  You're seriously comparing a refurb on eBay..?
- bpicolo 10y ago
  That said, 16 GB is sadly the norm. Dell XPS 15 caps there too. What the hell is going on here, though? Two different XPS 15 product pages: http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-15-9550-laptop http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-15-9550-la... http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-15-9550-laptop/pd http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-15-9550-laptop/pd From the former, you can't even get to a 16GB laptop, despite the same price points. What the hell is up with that? They target consumers with a crappier box at the same price, or what? Edit: I guess the 4k option is standard on the 1699 on the former page, and costs extra for the business version. That's pretty absurd though. The models are labeled exactly the same.
  - detaro 10y ago
    You can upgrade the Dell XPS 15 (9550) to 32 GB though. Only the XPS 13 has soldered-on RAM. And if I remember right, it is a user-servicable part, so no loss of warranty if you upgrade it yourself. EDIT: and price search sites show 32 GB models, so maybe you can have one upgraded directly from Dell somehow.
  - jasonlotito 10y ago
    Dell sells laptops that support higher caps. Apple does not. The issue is that consumers are limited by what Apple sells if they are reliant on MacOS. There is no competition for MacOS laptops.
- elchief 10y ago
  my previous computer was an HP Elitebook with SSD and 32g ram, and it was a piece of crap compared to my 2015 MBP. Hot, loud, super heavy, no battery life, inelegant.
- Bud 10y ago
  You aren't doing your homework here. Top spec on a MBP is not only a 2 TB SSD, four times what you are citing here; it's also a MUCH faster SSD than you can get on that HP at any price. The HP would get trounced in every benchmark available. It also has a markedly inferior display. Apples and oranges.
- sbov 10y ago
  When I used to buy macbooks, they did carry a premium, but usually not the sort of premium you're implying here. The problem is you have to compare apples to apples - not "I don't need that fancy XXX anyways". Which is an argument, but not an argument that macbooks are overpriced to the extent you're thinking here. With the touchbar, it will probably be more difficult to do fair price comparisons.

The new 15 inch max specced is $4,299 + tax in the US.

by sprite 10y ago

The new 15 inch max specced is $4,299 + tax in the US.

bpicolo 10y ago

Ah you're right, I had clicked the top end 13 on accident. That's just nuts. The upgrades are a real scam =/

rch 10y ago
They've really done their homework though. Price sensitive buyers get to feel frugal for skipping upgrades, while others get to enjoy a premium good. For me it makes sense to max out the options, but just barely.

at-fates-hands 10y ago

WOW. I could spec out a laptop (pick a vendor) with a 500SSD, i7, 32GB RAM and still be under 2K. I don't want to say their hardware is overpriced. . .but they're stuff is WAY over priced. http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-ZBook-Studio-G3-15-6-Core-i7-2-7GHz-32GB-RAM-512GB-SSD-M6V80AV-/232167317067 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-ZBook-Studio-G3-15-6-Core-i7-2-7G... $1,350.00 - HP ZBook Studio G3 - 15.6" - Core i7 2.7GHz (6th Gen) - 32GB RAM - 512GB SSD (M6V80AV) It's a dealer refurb, but still. . .

bshimmin 10y ago
You're seriously comparing a refurb on eBay..?
bpicolo 10y ago
That said, 16 GB is sadly the norm. Dell XPS 15 caps there too. What the hell is going on here, though? Two different XPS 15 product pages: http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-15-9550-laptop http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-15-9550-la... http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-15-9550-laptop/pd http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-15-9550-laptop/pd From the former, you can't even get to a 16GB laptop, despite the same price points. What the hell is up with that? They target consumers with a crappier box at the same price, or what? Edit: I guess the 4k option is standard on the 1699 on the former page, and costs extra for the business version. That's pretty absurd though. The models are labeled exactly the same.
- detaro 10y ago
  You can upgrade the Dell XPS 15 (9550) to 32 GB though. Only the XPS 13 has soldered-on RAM. And if I remember right, it is a user-servicable part, so no loss of warranty if you upgrade it yourself. EDIT: and price search sites show 32 GB models, so maybe you can have one upgraded directly from Dell somehow.
- jasonlotito 10y ago
  Dell sells laptops that support higher caps. Apple does not. The issue is that consumers are limited by what Apple sells if they are reliant on MacOS. There is no competition for MacOS laptops.
elchief 10y ago
my previous computer was an HP Elitebook with SSD and 32g ram, and it was a piece of crap compared to my 2015 MBP. Hot, loud, super heavy, no battery life, inelegant.
Bud 10y ago
You aren't doing your homework here. Top spec on a MBP is not only a 2 TB SSD, four times what you are citing here; it's also a MUCH faster SSD than you can get on that HP at any price. The HP would get trounced in every benchmark available. It also has a markedly inferior display. Apples and oranges.
sbov 10y ago
When I used to buy macbooks, they did carry a premium, but usually not the sort of premium you're implying here. The problem is you have to compare apples to apples - not "I don't need that fancy XXX anyways". Which is an argument, but not an argument that macbooks are overpriced to the extent you're thinking here. With the touchbar, it will probably be more difficult to do fair price comparisons.