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Well, the thing is there is no such thing as 'machine intelligence', so it's all just an assumption on top of an assumption about a thing we don't have a very g

by jmagoon 10y ago

Well, the thing is there is no such thing as 'machine intelligence', so it's all just an assumption on top of an assumption about a thing we don't have a very good grasp of yet. You're essentially saying that the author is wrong for saying the philosopher's stone can't transmute 100 bars of iron to 100 bars of gold, because a philosopher's stone could absolutely do that type of thing, because that's what philosopher's stones do. To walk down arguing the merits of this position, why must a machine intelligence 'not share any of that complexity' of a human intelligence? What suggests that intelligence is able to arise absent of complexity? Isn't the only current example of machine intelligence we currently have a property of feeding massive amounts of complex information into a program that gradually adjusts itself to its newly discovered outside world? Or are you suggesting that you could feed singular types of information to something that would then be classified as intelligent?

kobayashi 10y ago
I did not say that the a machine intelligence mustn't share motivational complexity a la humans. I said that a SAI need not share such complexity. Those are two very different statements. And to understand how/why a machine intelligence could arise without being substantially similar to a human intelligence and sharing similar motivations, well, I suggest you read the book or similar articles. In short, just because humans are the most sophisticated intelligences of which we yet know, it would be a very callous and unsubstantiated leap to believe that a machine intelligence is likely to share similar traits with humankind's intelligence. If this is unclear to you, I recommend you learn about how computer programs currently work, and how they're likely to improve to the point of becoming superintelligent. By the way, there are many types of SAI, for example an SAI who's superintelligent portion relates to speed, or strategy, or a few other types.

by jmagoon 10y ago

kobayashi 10y ago

I did not say that the a machine intelligence mustn't share motivational complexity a la humans. I said that a SAI need not share such complexity. Those are two very different statements. And to understand how/why a machine intelligence could arise without being substantially similar to a human intelligence and sharing similar motivations, well, I suggest you read the book or similar articles. In short, just because humans are the most sophisticated intelligences of which we yet know, it would be a very callous and unsubstantiated leap to believe that a machine intelligence is likely to share similar traits with humankind's intelligence. If this is unclear to you, I recommend you learn about how computer programs currently work, and how they're likely to improve to the point of becoming superintelligent. By the way, there are many types of SAI, for example an SAI who's superintelligent portion relates to speed, or strategy, or a few other types.