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People are told repeatedly that Note 7s are not allowed on flights at all now. You get announcements in line for security, at the gate, and on board before leav

People are told repeatedly that Note 7s are not allowed on flights at all now. You get announcements in line for security, at the gate, and on board before leaving.

saltyhiker 10y ago
Why don't they check for this particular phone in TSA security? The process is already ridiculous with shoe removal and toiletries in ziploc. Why not check the model number on my phone?
- Manishearth 10y ago
  They do check for it. I've seen people pulled aside with their phone getting inspected, presumably when TSA sees a something resembling a 7 in the scanner. (They probably know what to look for)
  - k-mcgrady 10y ago
    Are you sure that's what they were checking? They've randomly pulled people aside and swabbed electronics for years so it may just be that.
    - Manishearth 10y ago
      They explicity asked, and then manually inspected. (I was in the line for getting electronics swabbed so I could see)
lucaspiller 10y ago
Interesting... here in the EU they are just told to turn them off, not charge them onboard and not keep them in the overhead locker (although details vary by flight).
- kbart 10y ago
  Because EU doesn't have any initiative to push Apple's agenda.
  - memsom 10y ago
    I just flew UK to Spain this week an no one even mentioned Galaxy. Note 7. Nothing but the standard "phoned must be off or in airplane mode"
    - kbart 10y ago
      Because that's what the sane approach is. The odds of Galaxy Note 7 is going in flames are very very small, this happening during these few hours when on plane, makes it even more smaller by few orders of magnitude. That's why in my parent post I suspected hidden agenda by direct competitors, not that there's real hazard. We accept bigger risks every day and don't make big deal of them.
      - simonh 10y ago
        And yet it already actually happened[1], within a few days of the device's re-launch after the first recall. [1] http://gizmodo.com/galaxy-note-7-explodes-during-boarding-of-a-southwest-f-1787447287 http://gizmodo.com/galaxy-note-7-explodes-during-boarding-of...
      - bArray 10y ago
        I doubt there's an agenda to push Apple products but the sane approach is just to insist all phones are switched off as you say. If we're completely honest, with little effort any LiPo can be turned into a threat. Puncture a sufficiently large LiPo, throw it in the toilet bin and go back to your seat. With a phone, laptop and camera - all with spare batteries it's conceivable that you could cause some serious damage. It's impossible to remove all risks on an aircraft - they will always be there. It would be better to have better handling - i.e. a large fire proof bag and a bucket of sand. Inevitably this will end up happening regardless of what checks they put in place. Fire extinguishers simply don't cut it with LiPos and I doubt their staff even know that.
cbhl 10y ago
That's an FAA (US gov't) ban, though, right? I imagine it wouldn't apply to planes that aren't traveling in/to/from the US.

People are told repeatedly that Note 7s are not allowed on flights at all now. You get announcements in line for security, at the gate, and on board before leaving.

saltyhiker 10y ago

Why don't they check for this particular phone in TSA security? The process is already ridiculous with shoe removal and toiletries in ziploc. Why not check the model number on my phone?

Manishearth 10y ago
They do check for it. I've seen people pulled aside with their phone getting inspected, presumably when TSA sees a something resembling a 7 in the scanner. (They probably know what to look for)
- k-mcgrady 10y ago
  Are you sure that's what they were checking? They've randomly pulled people aside and swabbed electronics for years so it may just be that.
  - Manishearth 10y ago
    They explicity asked, and then manually inspected. (I was in the line for getting electronics swabbed so I could see)

lucaspiller 10y ago

Interesting... here in the EU they are just told to turn them off, not charge them onboard and not keep them in the overhead locker (although details vary by flight).

kbart 10y ago
Because EU doesn't have any initiative to push Apple's agenda.
- memsom 10y ago
  I just flew UK to Spain this week an no one even mentioned Galaxy. Note 7. Nothing but the standard "phoned must be off or in airplane mode"
  - kbart 10y ago
    Because that's what the sane approach is. The odds of Galaxy Note 7 is going in flames are very very small, this happening during these few hours when on plane, makes it even more smaller by few orders of magnitude. That's why in my parent post I suspected hidden agenda by direct competitors, not that there's real hazard. We accept bigger risks every day and don't make big deal of them.
    - simonh 10y ago
      And yet it already actually happened[1], within a few days of the device's re-launch after the first recall. [1] http://gizmodo.com/galaxy-note-7-explodes-during-boarding-of-a-southwest-f-1787447287 http://gizmodo.com/galaxy-note-7-explodes-during-boarding-of...
    - bArray 10y ago
      I doubt there's an agenda to push Apple products but the sane approach is just to insist all phones are switched off as you say. If we're completely honest, with little effort any LiPo can be turned into a threat. Puncture a sufficiently large LiPo, throw it in the toilet bin and go back to your seat. With a phone, laptop and camera - all with spare batteries it's conceivable that you could cause some serious damage. It's impossible to remove all risks on an aircraft - they will always be there. It would be better to have better handling - i.e. a large fire proof bag and a bucket of sand. Inevitably this will end up happening regardless of what checks they put in place. Fire extinguishers simply don't cut it with LiPos and I doubt their staff even know that.

cbhl 10y ago

That's an FAA (US gov't) ban, though, right? I imagine it wouldn't apply to planes that aren't traveling in/to/from the US.