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Posiba shuts down office in Vietnam without paying their staff
Company hasn't paid the staff since Jun 2016. Now CEO decides to close office in VN without clear path to pay us. PosibaVn is the core engineering team and it's not their failure.
Is there anyone can help us?
- EDreicer 10y agoPosiba in a nutshell http://posibablog.cf/nutshell/ http://posibablog.cf/nutshell/ CEO message: http://posibablog.cf/closing_down/ http://posibablog.cf/closing_down/
- abigailvo23 10y agoPlease show me the upvote button.
- blue2808 10y agoit's the triangle next to the title on the left sweetie
- abigailvo23 10y agothanks
- EDreicer 10y agoIt's not an internal problem. It's how some US start-up companies are working in Vietnam, and it's also a problem in Vietnam laws system that hasn't any strict rules for FDI companies. Start-up is hard, but it's not hard this way when the whole staff are not paid. We need you to raise this problem on the start-up environments. Let me know what you think.
- mrwhite200766 10y agoI agree, we should raise this problem to the start-up environments, but where and how to raise?
- EDreicer 10y agoHackerNews is where we start. The team tries with layer in Vietnam, but that doesn't really help as for FDI companies all money comes from US. No money in VN.
- baoden0920 10y agoUnbelievable for a CEO is an american person. https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-dreicer-1a907b5 https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-dreicer-1a907b5
- EDreicer 10y agoThe CEO doesn't bother to say "sorry" for their mistake that leads us to this situation. It's sad to see her message http://posibablog.cf/closing_down/ http://posibablog.cf/closing_down/
- huu2uan 10y agothe dark side of startups :(
- blue2808 10y agoyeah, so sad for them, poor posiba employees :(
- phamn1985 10y ago:)) ...
- jessica_do 10y agoreally a nightmare for the employee
- EDreicer 10y agowe have been waiting for months (yes it's 6 months) with "soon", "updates" and no money. The first time I've seen this kind of company in my life. Maybe a good chance to learn something new ... phew!
- jessica_do 10y agoIt means the employee have to face with a big problem with their life, their career path and their future. It really a thing to learn!
- ken0106 10y agoShoul we raise some voice to draw attention and solve this in a peaceful way?
- wiseup 10y agoPosiba paid only 1/10 of bills to contractors in America. And still owes pay to American employees. I worked in the San Diego office and watched upper-management lie to their employees, contractors, and the few customers they had. Good, honest staff only stayed a few months before calling B.S. or getting let go (often with pay still owing). Any ex-employee who complained got contacted by a lawyer. After observing the CEO up close and personal, I can tell you that, though rich and pampered herself, she is a sociopath. She can talk a mean streak of lies with out blinking, feels very little emotion and cannot feel empathy, and will not think twice before hurting anyone. Someday she will get her comeuppance.
- EDreicer 10y agoIt's said to see our company is running in this situation, but it seems the CEO lost many chances to save us... Was there any problem when company's laywer contacted ex-employeed? Is the Us laws system preventing you from suing the company, or you don't like / can't afford a court issue? The team in VN tries to sue PosibaVn, and they will win. However, getting the full payment is another story when the company keeps saying they doesn't have anything to pay. It's said to hear that company still owes pay to American employees; we here in Vn thought they were fully paid (I know CTO and some foreigners are not paid, though.) It's nice if you would give me some contact points so we won't let this story go.
- wiseup 10y agoYou can't get money out of a bankrupt company. Suing would cost several thousands. According to American law, in a bankruptcy, employees get paid first, then contractors if anything is left. Suing will only lose you money, nothing to gain.
- EDreicer 10y agoExcept for time, it's free to sue PosibaVn in Vietnam (the company can't win for any reason)
- wiseup 10y agoPosiba paid only 1/10 of bills to contractors in America. And still owes pay to American employees. I worked in the San Diego office and watched upper-management lie to their employees, contractors, and the few customers they had. Good, honest staff only stayed a few months before calling B.S. or getting let go (often with pay still owing). Any ex-employee who complained got contacted by a lawyer. After observing the CEO up close and personal, I can tell you that, though rich and pampered herself, she is a sociopath. She can talk a mean streak of lies with out blinking, feels very little emotion and cannot feel empathy, and will not think twice before hurting anyone. Someday she will get her comeuppance.
- Mrthanhtu 10y agoit's really a nightmare for Vietnam employee :(
- EDreicer 10y agoThe problem is now on public media in Vietnam http://phunuonline.com.vn/xa-hoi/phap-luat/hon-60-nhan-vien-posiba-viet-nam-mat-tet-vi-bi-quyt-luong-gan-40-ty-dong-90733/ http://phunuonline.com.vn/xa-hoi/phap-luat/hon-60-nhan-vien-...