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Not a single mention of grsecurity and RAP, useless article.

staticassertion 10y ago
Yep. More of the same. Despite most of the recent improvements to the Linux kernel essentially boiling down to cherry picking Grsec/PaX, no one gives them due credit. And no one's even talking about RAP.
cyphar 10y ago
Well, given the fact that the grsecurity folks violate the GPL, in not sure what recognition they deserve other than "you can now get their feature in a free software, mainline kernel".
- eugeneionesco 10y ago
  Can you let me know exactly where I can get RAP? You seems to be slandering grsec for no reason.
  - cyphar 10y ago
    > You seems to be slandering grsec for no reason. It's not without reason, I don't like people abusing free software in the manner the grsecurity people do it (https://grsecurity.net/agree/agreement.php https://grsecurity.net/agree/agreement.php). They license code under the GPL (because they have to) but then they effectively tell their customers that exercising their right to redistribute code will result in a termination of contract (which is at best against the spirit of the GPL, and at worst illegal).
    - eugeneionesco 10y ago
      You obviously have no clue how GPL works. Everything is explained very well on the agreement page.
      - cyphar 10y ago
        > You obviously have no clue how GPL works. I disagree. > Everything is explained very well on the agreement page. Yes, it's very clear that they're attempting to subvert the GPL by coercing customers into not exercising their freedom to redistribute (section 3, first sentence). I can't find it now (all I could find is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11808914 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11808914) but there was a thread about this issue earlier this year. Essentially, in some people's view grsecurity is acting in bad faith which means that they are violating the GPL (not the license text itself, but the copyright law surrounding license agreements).
        eugeneionesco 10y ago
        Exactly what I said, you don't understand how GPL works and you just slander grsecurity for no reason. Even you said they're not breaking GPL multiple times. What they're doing is allowed.

Yep. More of the same. Despite most of the recent improvements to the Linux kernel essentially boiling down to cherry picking Grsec/PaX, no one gives them due credit. And no one's even talking about RAP.

cyphar 10y ago

Well, given the fact that the grsecurity folks violate the GPL, in not sure what recognition they deserve other than "you can now get their feature in a free software, mainline kernel".

eugeneionesco 10y ago
Can you let me know exactly where I can get RAP? You seems to be slandering grsec for no reason.
- cyphar 10y ago
  > You seems to be slandering grsec for no reason. It's not without reason, I don't like people abusing free software in the manner the grsecurity people do it (https://grsecurity.net/agree/agreement.php https://grsecurity.net/agree/agreement.php). They license code under the GPL (because they have to) but then they effectively tell their customers that exercising their right to redistribute code will result in a termination of contract (which is at best against the spirit of the GPL, and at worst illegal).
  - eugeneionesco 10y ago
    You obviously have no clue how GPL works. Everything is explained very well on the agreement page.
    - cyphar 10y ago
      > You obviously have no clue how GPL works. I disagree. > Everything is explained very well on the agreement page. Yes, it's very clear that they're attempting to subvert the GPL by coercing customers into not exercising their freedom to redistribute (section 3, first sentence). I can't find it now (all I could find is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11808914 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11808914) but there was a thread about this issue earlier this year. Essentially, in some people's view grsecurity is acting in bad faith which means that they are violating the GPL (not the license text itself, but the copyright law surrounding license agreements).
      - eugeneionesco 10y ago
        Exactly what I said, you don't understand how GPL works and you just slander grsecurity for no reason. Even you said they're not breaking GPL multiple times. What they're doing is allowed.