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what's awesome about glorifying fighting? with any random person who says something inconsequential?

• mixmax 19y ago
  why did you find it inconsequential ?
  • curi 19y ago
    some guy has a misconceived opinion about steve jobs' arrogance? so what? that isn't going to hurt anyone, or mess up anything important.
    • yters 19y ago
      Entirely unrelated: lest you think me rude, I must let you know I won't be responding to your email for awhile. I am currently snow bound and my house keys are in said snow. As for messaging, I mainly use gtalk or skype. For gtalk you have my contact info, and I think I used the same address for skype.
      • curi 19y ago
        don't worry, rather than assume the worst i just guessed you were busy and might reply next weekend (if not today). i'll try gtalk then. good luck with snow thawing.
        • yters 19y ago
          Thanks, it's always nice when someone's normal reaction is to assume the best instead of the worst:) Also, like my personal mail, I'll only be able to use skype and such when I leave work. So, I won't be online until this coming weekend (hopefully). Concerning child raising, I saw your conversation with that other guy. While your philosophy does seem like the best, it also seems to me that I can act unreasonably at times. Aristotle pointed this out, people can lack temperance. I think the keyword is akrasia. Socrates, on the other hand, thought all moral failings were based on ignorance. From what I've noticed, the older people get, the more they lean to the former viewpoint. I'm not sure which view is correct; I like Socrates', but practically I follow Aristotle's.
          • curi 19y ago
            Parents are sometimes mistaken, so strategies that rely on the parent being right in all disputes result in some avoidable mistakes. I want policies for how to live that function reasonably well even for people who have flaws and sometimes act unreasonably (aka everyone). In other words, one of the major features I look for in a philosophy of education, or of life in general, is resilience to errors. So far, I think we are in agreement. But you seem to have brought up your own imperfection as a point of possible disagreement. I'm guessing that has more to do with this other issue: The fundamental issue is that if you can't persuade someone of your ideas, that is a bad reason to force him. Here your comments about different ways people can be unreasonable are important. If a problem is due to someone's ignorance then it makes sense that good ideas can solve the problem. Ideas clearly are capable of reducing ignorance. If it's a problem of akrasia, lack of self control, emotions run wild, or solidly entrenched bad ideas, then what to do is less clear. What if the person, adult or child, won't listen to reason? If what he wants isn't based a reasoned decision then why would reason change his mind? I have some answers to those questions. But first I want to check in to see if you agree so far, and if this is the sort of question you are interested in. PS FYI I might potentially be able to give a more helpful reply in private; I try to avoid personal comments in public about both myself and others.
            • yters 19y ago
              Yes, that's an interesting question, and I think I agree so far. I won't promise quick or lengthy responses though, so if you've already written something up on your blog about this, feel free to just give me a link. I don't want you to waste your time if it turns out I'm not so interested after all.
              • curi 19y ago
                It's good of you to warn me. But even if you never reply (or even read it) I'll be glad to have thought about something interesting to me, and (hopefully) to have written something good. If it turns out well enough, I can even reuse it elsewhere. There's no risk of wasted time. That said, there is a chance I won't get to this today, but I will sometime. Please consider yourself to have no obligations to me, and continue things only if you want to.
    • mixmax 19y ago
      No, but it's an opinion. And opinions is one of the reasons we are here discussing the submitted articles IMHO.
      • curi 19y ago
        yes, we are here discussing. there's no call for fighting. silly or dumb opinions are inconsequential on the scale of things that matter before you'd want to consider violence.
        • mixmax 19y ago
          I'm a pacifist, and have never been in a fight. It was an attempt at stating my opinion in a humourus way. Sorry if I failed at that.
          • pchristensen 19y ago
            Yeah, my wife read that thread and she was stunned that someone actually thought mixmax was waiting outside his house at dawn with a pistol in his hand. I praised the comment because it's the second funniest thing I've read in a month not because I wanted him to fight anyone!
            • mixmax 19y ago
              pchristensen, you're my new best friend. You have a sense of humor!
              • pchristensen 19y ago
                For the record, the funniest goes to Catbert interviewing the phb, asking "Do you worship Satan or just respect his no nonsense approach to discipline?" http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20080223.html http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20080223.h...