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What's wrong with regular Fukushima scale disasters? They're not very deadly. We already have frequent mining disasters in the coal industry and don't care abou

by Hondor 10y ago

What's wrong with regular Fukushima scale disasters? They're not very deadly. We already have frequent mining disasters in the coal industry and don't care about that. If anything, nuclear power needs less safety to reduce costs and become competitive. For some reason people are still scared of radiation even after seeing how harmless Chernobyl turned out to be compared to predictions.

tripzilch 10y ago
> Fukushima scale disasters? They're not very deadly. except for the people that literally had to give up their lives in order to save the situation and not let it grow many times worse. knowing they were stepping into the radiation that would kill them in a few hours (if they were lucky). hey if it's not very deadly, why don't you volunteer for being one of those heroes the next disaster also Fukushima is not yet done doing damage, not by a long shot. let's evaluate the "once every 30 years is no biggie, really" thing once we spent 30 years trying to clean it up. > how harmless Chernobyl turned out to be because all those malformed children being born must've been a hoax, or something. btw I wasn't against nuclear energy at all (except by now it's kinda too late really, and once we realize the next plan B will be too late, but at least we'll keep on making new humans to witness the carnage) but it was because I thought we could actually do better than Chernobyl and Fukushima, not to take it as a calculated risk. That is horrible. I'd easily give up "air-conditioning and data centres" to prevent that shit (easy to say, I don't have AC, and data ... well we could really do with a little bit less of those, take a moment and think about what is stored in those because it's so ridiculously cheap, at best it's worthless data).
- roryisok 10y ago
  > now it's kinda too late I know we've passed the 400ppm threshold, it's too late to prevent that, but its not "too late" to switch the planet to renewable energy. It can never be too late for that. We can't stop the catastrophic effects of climate change that we'll likely see in our lifetimes, but we can hopefully stop it from being even worse
  - tripzilch 10y ago
    thanks for saying that. I can get real gloomy about this sort of thing.

by Hondor 10y ago

tripzilch 10y ago

> Fukushima scale disasters? They're not very deadly. except for the people that literally had to give up their lives in order to save the situation and not let it grow many times worse. knowing they were stepping into the radiation that would kill them in a few hours (if they were lucky). hey if it's not very deadly, why don't you volunteer for being one of those heroes the next disaster also Fukushima is not yet done doing damage, not by a long shot. let's evaluate the "once every 30 years is no biggie, really" thing once we spent 30 years trying to clean it up. > how harmless Chernobyl turned out to be because all those malformed children being born must've been a hoax, or something. btw I wasn't against nuclear energy at all (except by now it's kinda too late really, and once we realize the next plan B will be too late, but at least we'll keep on making new humans to witness the carnage) but it was because I thought we could actually do better than Chernobyl and Fukushima, not to take it as a calculated risk. That is horrible. I'd easily give up "air-conditioning and data centres" to prevent that shit (easy to say, I don't have AC, and data ... well we could really do with a little bit less of those, take a moment and think about what is stored in those because it's so ridiculously cheap, at best it's worthless data).

roryisok 10y ago
> now it's kinda too late I know we've passed the 400ppm threshold, it's too late to prevent that, but its not "too late" to switch the planet to renewable energy. It can never be too late for that. We can't stop the catastrophic effects of climate change that we'll likely see in our lifetimes, but we can hopefully stop it from being even worse
- tripzilch 10y ago
  thanks for saying that. I can get real gloomy about this sort of thing.