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Elixir is definitely interesting and one to keep an eye on. But I'd guess that for startups to use this, is still very risky especially at this stage. You may l

Elixir is definitely interesting and one to keep an eye on. But I'd guess that for startups to use this, is still very risky especially at this stage. You may likely run into scenarios where you need some library/package and you can't find one for it and that could be a potential deal breaker for some startups. I'm interested to hear though, can anyone care to comment on their experiences with Elixir's package ecosystem? How much developed is it and/or how much more to go to be suitable for most major projects?

iamd3vil 10y ago
Elixir's package ecosystem is quite good. The advantage Elixir has is that using an Erlang package in your Elixir codebase is very very easy and the same as using any other elixir package. We are using Elixir for more than a year now at work and in almost all cases where we couldn't find a Elixir lib we found an Erlang one.
ryanbigg 10y ago
I think that the package ecosystem is well developed, and getting better every day. For the most common things, there's already packages out there. You want to talk to a database? Use Ecto. You want to check code quality? Use Credo. You want to respond using JSONAPI? Use ja_serializer. You want to talk over HTTP to something? Well there's two main options out there (HTTPotion and HTTPoison). If you can't find a package then you could try looking it up at https://github.com/h4cc/awesome-elixir https://github.com/h4cc/awesome-elixir or asking on the elixir slack (https://elixir-slackin.herokuapp.com/ https://elixir-slackin.herokuapp.com/) or on the #elixir-lang channel on Freenode. After all that if you can't find a package that suits your needs then it's very easy to create one. "mix new (your project)" and away you go. That's what I did with my elastic package (https://github.com/radar/elastic https://github.com/radar/elastic) when I couldn't quite find something that suited my exact needs. There's Elastix and Tirexs out there (those are the ones I know of) but neither really suited what I needed, so I just built my own. I don't know how it could be a deal breaker if a package didn't exist already. I'd encourage you to build whatever you don't find already existing and contribute back to the community.
- bpicolo 10y ago
  Man, there are things I like about Ecto but for anything beyond simple selects the documentation is lacking and the experience is kind of painful. As an example, I hit the issue recently where a changeset wouldn't accept nil for a relation via put_assoc. That seemed like an very trivial problem to be hitting for a project that's been around so long. And I hit a number of issues that had that sort of feeling. Another thing was that, if you update a thing with new relation data, you have to force-reload the relationships from the database again. That was pretty surprising and seemed like it should be unnecessary. I think there's room for an Ecto alternative that tries to be a bit less fancy and gains a lot because of it.

iamd3vil 10y ago

Elixir's package ecosystem is quite good. The advantage Elixir has is that using an Erlang package in your Elixir codebase is very very easy and the same as using any other elixir package. We are using Elixir for more than a year now at work and in almost all cases where we couldn't find a Elixir lib we found an Erlang one.

ryanbigg 10y ago

I think that the package ecosystem is well developed, and getting better every day. For the most common things, there's already packages out there. You want to talk to a database? Use Ecto. You want to check code quality? Use Credo. You want to respond using JSONAPI? Use ja_serializer. You want to talk over HTTP to something? Well there's two main options out there (HTTPotion and HTTPoison). If you can't find a package then you could try looking it up at https://github.com/h4cc/awesome-elixir https://github.com/h4cc/awesome-elixir or asking on the elixir slack (https://elixir-slackin.herokuapp.com/ https://elixir-slackin.herokuapp.com/) or on the #elixir-lang channel on Freenode. After all that if you can't find a package that suits your needs then it's very easy to create one. "mix new (your project)" and away you go. That's what I did with my elastic package (https://github.com/radar/elastic https://github.com/radar/elastic) when I couldn't quite find something that suited my exact needs. There's Elastix and Tirexs out there (those are the ones I know of) but neither really suited what I needed, so I just built my own. I don't know how it could be a deal breaker if a package didn't exist already. I'd encourage you to build whatever you don't find already existing and contribute back to the community.

bpicolo 10y ago
Man, there are things I like about Ecto but for anything beyond simple selects the documentation is lacking and the experience is kind of painful. As an example, I hit the issue recently where a changeset wouldn't accept nil for a relation via put_assoc. That seemed like an very trivial problem to be hitting for a project that's been around so long. And I hit a number of issues that had that sort of feeling. Another thing was that, if you update a thing with new relation data, you have to force-reload the relationships from the database again. That was pretty surprising and seemed like it should be unnecessary. I think there's room for an Ecto alternative that tries to be a bit less fancy and gains a lot because of it.