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An illustrative example is how many refugees Sweden received in 2015, 150 000[1]. Sweden has about 1/3 of the number of inhabitants as Canada. If Canada were t

An illustrative example is how many refugees Sweden received in 2015, 150 000[1]. Sweden has about 1/3 of the number of inhabitants as Canada. If Canada were to receive a proportionally large number of refugees that would be about 450 000 refugees. In actuality Canada has received about 35 000. An order of magnitude less. The Canadian refugee system is/was under no where near the amount of stress that the European states are/were. (Some European countries like Hungary for example have behaved thoroughly Xenophobic during these events and are frankly embarrassing to be associated with) [1] http://www.migrationsverket.se/English/About-the-Migration-Agency/Facts-and-statistics-/Statistics.html http://www.migrationsverket.se/English/About-the-Migration-A... [2] http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/refugees/welcome/milestones.asp http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/refugees/welcome/milestones.asp

kbart 10y ago
Sweden is actually an example of how not to handle a refugee crisis. Just yesterday I met my friend who lives in Sweden and was at Malmö at the height of migrant crisis. I won't recite what he said and what is current opinion of common swedes themselves, because I would get downvoted to hell as xenophobic bastard.
- grp 10y ago
  Where did you explain Sweden is a bad example? I mean nearly everybody knows that foreigners and xenophobia are correlated.
  - kbart 10y ago
    Just google it, it's not a secret of some kind: https://www.google.com/search?q=sweden+refugee+crisis&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab https://www.google.com/search?q=sweden+refugee+crisis&ie=utf...
- toyg 10y ago
  Malmö was a clusterfuck before the migration crisis. It's the garbage bin of the country. My feeling is that the crisis (and rioting a few years ago) just gave the locals a justification to talk more openly about the problems there without feeling racist. Sweden did an amazing job in the last 30 years picking up the mess that the rest of the WHOLE WORLD keeps making. They have been left alone and now they are struggling. Germany is now reaching a similar status. It can't go on like that. One thing that would likely help is linking seats on the UN Security Council to refugee quotas. You shouldn't be able to decide what goes on without accepting responsibility for picking up your rubbish.
  - kbart 10y ago
    "One thing that would likely help is linking seats on the UN Security Council to refugee quotas. You shouldn't be able to decide what goes on without accepting responsibility for picking up your rubbish." Great idea, but it will never pass while certain countries possesses and abuses their veto[0] on pretty much any deal that has some impact on real world. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_veto_power#/media/File:UNSC_veto.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Counci...
  - BBlarat 10y ago
    Do you live in Malmö? I do and it's far from a clusterfuck.
    - antifragility 10y ago
      No, you don't. Just last month my lifelong friend moved back to Malmö from Amsterdam and now he is moving out because a hand grenade was thrown into the hallway of their apartment complex. He is a second-generation immigrant from Egypt, but if he'd talk about his experiences publicly, upper class white pseudo-leftist would drive hours from the overpriced hipster district to attack him and his girlfriend for being "racist uncle toms" and vandalize their apartment. Your holier-than-thou virtue signaling only serves your narcissism and hurts people who are actually in need of help.
vixen99 10y ago
Meanwhile the six wealthy Gulf countries - Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Bahrain - have offered to receive exactly zero Syrian refugees. Saudi Arabia has however funded 200 mosques for construction in Germany.

kbart 10y ago

Sweden is actually an example of how not to handle a refugee crisis. Just yesterday I met my friend who lives in Sweden and was at Malmö at the height of migrant crisis. I won't recite what he said and what is current opinion of common swedes themselves, because I would get downvoted to hell as xenophobic bastard.

grp 10y ago
Where did you explain Sweden is a bad example? I mean nearly everybody knows that foreigners and xenophobia are correlated.
- kbart 10y ago
  Just google it, it's not a secret of some kind: https://www.google.com/search?q=sweden+refugee+crisis&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab https://www.google.com/search?q=sweden+refugee+crisis&ie=utf...
toyg 10y ago
Malmö was a clusterfuck before the migration crisis. It's the garbage bin of the country. My feeling is that the crisis (and rioting a few years ago) just gave the locals a justification to talk more openly about the problems there without feeling racist. Sweden did an amazing job in the last 30 years picking up the mess that the rest of the WHOLE WORLD keeps making. They have been left alone and now they are struggling. Germany is now reaching a similar status. It can't go on like that. One thing that would likely help is linking seats on the UN Security Council to refugee quotas. You shouldn't be able to decide what goes on without accepting responsibility for picking up your rubbish.
- kbart 10y ago
  "One thing that would likely help is linking seats on the UN Security Council to refugee quotas. You shouldn't be able to decide what goes on without accepting responsibility for picking up your rubbish." Great idea, but it will never pass while certain countries possesses and abuses their veto[0] on pretty much any deal that has some impact on real world. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_veto_power#/media/File:UNSC_veto.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Counci...
- BBlarat 10y ago
  Do you live in Malmö? I do and it's far from a clusterfuck.
  - antifragility 10y ago
    No, you don't. Just last month my lifelong friend moved back to Malmö from Amsterdam and now he is moving out because a hand grenade was thrown into the hallway of their apartment complex. He is a second-generation immigrant from Egypt, but if he'd talk about his experiences publicly, upper class white pseudo-leftist would drive hours from the overpriced hipster district to attack him and his girlfriend for being "racist uncle toms" and vandalize their apartment. Your holier-than-thou virtue signaling only serves your narcissism and hurts people who are actually in need of help.

vixen99 10y ago

Meanwhile the six wealthy Gulf countries - Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Bahrain - have offered to receive exactly zero Syrian refugees. Saudi Arabia has however funded 200 mosques for construction in Germany.