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Business love regulation. Really keeps the upstarts out of the game if they need to have twenty different certifications to get their product to compete.

tmptmp 10y ago
I understand your concern about regulations being barrier to entry. But it's a hard (certainly not impossible) to solve problem. I can see that making the regulation less costly (e.g. by reducing administrative overheads wherever possible) we can reduce the cost of regulations themselves. But the regulations the airliners have to undergo cannot be easily reduced. Aircraft manufacturers should have more stringent regulations than airliners. I'd not fly in a plane that has not certified to have passed all regulatory checks.
nickff 10y ago
'Notice and comment periods' ensure that large businesses are heard, without any risk of new or not-yet-founded competitors being taken into account.
wpietri 10y ago
This can be true, but there's a more immediate reason they love them: the perception that the industry is safe leads to greater sales volume and much cheaper sales cycles. As an example, consider restaurant sanitation regulations. If restaurants are frequently unsafe, people will learn pretty quickly that it's better to eat at home. But if restaurants are generally seen as safe, people will eat out a lot more. That benefits all restaurant owners.
taneq 10y ago
Or you could just not regulate medical devices, and if someone dies from a lethal dose of radiation from an X-ray machine then shrug they shouldn't have used that model I guess.
- tomohawk 10y ago
  Is that really the only other choice here? Knocking down straw men will also not get us where we need to be. Regulation can harm at least as much as it can help. Consider that regulation is based on ideas that people think might help a situation, then add in some partisanship. When coming up with ideas, how likely is it that an idea is not going to be a good one vs it will do some good? Perhaps it would be better if there was some way to incrementally evaluate regulations. Perhaps if they had a defined lifetime to force re-evaluation in light of actual experience. This would prevent at least one negative aspect of regulation - locking into practices that were thought to be safe and maybe were, but are no longer the best/safest way to do things.
  - rmah 10y ago
    You asked, "When coming up with ideas, how likely is it that an idea is not going to be a good one vs it will do some good?" My guess is about 99.9% of ideas are bad. More to the point, many regulations expire or must be periodically re-evaluated by law.

tmptmp 10y ago

I understand your concern about regulations being barrier to entry. But it's a hard (certainly not impossible) to solve problem. I can see that making the regulation less costly (e.g. by reducing administrative overheads wherever possible) we can reduce the cost of regulations themselves. But the regulations the airliners have to undergo cannot be easily reduced. Aircraft manufacturers should have more stringent regulations than airliners. I'd not fly in a plane that has not certified to have passed all regulatory checks.

nickff 10y ago

'Notice and comment periods' ensure that large businesses are heard, without any risk of new or not-yet-founded competitors being taken into account.

wpietri 10y ago

This can be true, but there's a more immediate reason they love them: the perception that the industry is safe leads to greater sales volume and much cheaper sales cycles. As an example, consider restaurant sanitation regulations. If restaurants are frequently unsafe, people will learn pretty quickly that it's better to eat at home. But if restaurants are generally seen as safe, people will eat out a lot more. That benefits all restaurant owners.

taneq 10y ago

Or you could just not regulate medical devices, and if someone dies from a lethal dose of radiation from an X-ray machine then shrug they shouldn't have used that model I guess.

tomohawk 10y ago
Is that really the only other choice here? Knocking down straw men will also not get us where we need to be. Regulation can harm at least as much as it can help. Consider that regulation is based on ideas that people think might help a situation, then add in some partisanship. When coming up with ideas, how likely is it that an idea is not going to be a good one vs it will do some good? Perhaps it would be better if there was some way to incrementally evaluate regulations. Perhaps if they had a defined lifetime to force re-evaluation in light of actual experience. This would prevent at least one negative aspect of regulation - locking into practices that were thought to be safe and maybe were, but are no longer the best/safest way to do things.
- rmah 10y ago
  You asked, "When coming up with ideas, how likely is it that an idea is not going to be a good one vs it will do some good?" My guess is about 99.9% of ideas are bad. More to the point, many regulations expire or must be periodically re-evaluated by law.