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Alpha software is alpha-quality. It takes time to get things right. My pre-release stuff is full of bugs...which is why it's pre-release. Seems like it's a b

by cscotta 16y ago

Alpha software is alpha-quality. It takes time to get things right. My pre-release stuff is full of bugs...which is why it's pre-release. Seems like it's a bit early to judge the quality of their product.

CamperBob 16y ago
Seems like it's a bit early to judge the quality of their product. Seems like an excellent idea to keep it in the lab and out of the public eye, then.
- megablast 16y ago
  This exposure partly might be due to Steve Jobs calling Adobe out last week. And people do want to see flash running on a device, and now we have it. This is a huge step. I mean, sure, there are still a large number of questions, like battery, speed, but this is great.
malkia 16y ago
Zeta Software is Zeta-Quality :) Fun aside, but we do extensive stress tests for our games before going to the E3, or even for just journalist visits. If we know that the game crash, a special person is playing it (usually some QA guy) so that it doesn't. That's failure to DEMONSTRATE!
- angstrom 16y ago
  Yeah, I don't give them a by on this either. It's not on the level of a BSOD during a CEO demonstration, but it's not promising either.
catch23 16y ago
The flash video on youtube crashes for me at least once a day on my Mac... so nothing new here. Is the flash player for the mac also alpha quality too?
- FluidDjango 16y ago
  Short answer: Apparently. The problem is: They pawn it off as v 1.0 or better :/
vtail 16y ago
Which reinforces Steve Jobs's point that there is no working mobile Flash implementation yet.
loire280 16y ago
Assuming that large portions of the Android Flash player are borrowed from the Linux version of Flash, I'm not very hopeful for the final product. Flash Player for Linux is by far the buggiest of the desktop implementations. On the other hand, Linux users may get lucky and indirectly benefit from a renewed push to improve that code base!
- anonjon 16y ago
  haven't had any problems with flash on linux here...
- DrSprout 16y ago
  Flash hasn't crashed on me in over a year. Firefox frequently refuses to run Flash, but I've pretty much given up on that, and when I want Flash, I copy the url into Chromium. It's actually a nice separation, since I've got one locked-down noscripted browser I go where I want on,and one that I use when I'm looking for rich media.
neonfunk 16y ago
I'll bet people are only interested in this because it (Flash on Android) was originally described as running "flawlessly". If they had just described it as alpha (and realistically, buggy), this would be a non-story.
catch23 16y ago
I'm guessing flash will still crash in the production version, the only difference is that Google will have an android browser similar to Chrome in that flash crashing will not cause the whole browser to crash. I really doubt Adobe can fix all the long standing bugs in Flash before the release if they haven't been able to fix them for the past 5 years.

by cscotta 16y ago

CamperBob 16y ago

Seems like it's a bit early to judge the quality of their product. Seems like an excellent idea to keep it in the lab and out of the public eye, then.

megablast 16y ago
This exposure partly might be due to Steve Jobs calling Adobe out last week. And people do want to see flash running on a device, and now we have it. This is a huge step. I mean, sure, there are still a large number of questions, like battery, speed, but this is great.

malkia 16y ago

Zeta Software is Zeta-Quality :) Fun aside, but we do extensive stress tests for our games before going to the E3, or even for just journalist visits. If we know that the game crash, a special person is playing it (usually some QA guy) so that it doesn't. That's failure to DEMONSTRATE!

angstrom 16y ago
Yeah, I don't give them a by on this either. It's not on the level of a BSOD during a CEO demonstration, but it's not promising either.

catch23 16y ago

The flash video on youtube crashes for me at least once a day on my Mac... so nothing new here. Is the flash player for the mac also alpha quality too?

FluidDjango 16y ago
Short answer: Apparently. The problem is: They pawn it off as v 1.0 or better :/

vtail 16y ago

Which reinforces Steve Jobs's point that there is no working mobile Flash implementation yet.

loire280 16y ago

Assuming that large portions of the Android Flash player are borrowed from the Linux version of Flash, I'm not very hopeful for the final product. Flash Player for Linux is by far the buggiest of the desktop implementations. On the other hand, Linux users may get lucky and indirectly benefit from a renewed push to improve that code base!

anonjon 16y ago
haven't had any problems with flash on linux here...
DrSprout 16y ago
Flash hasn't crashed on me in over a year. Firefox frequently refuses to run Flash, but I've pretty much given up on that, and when I want Flash, I copy the url into Chromium. It's actually a nice separation, since I've got one locked-down noscripted browser I go where I want on,and one that I use when I'm looking for rich media.

neonfunk 16y ago

I'll bet people are only interested in this because it (Flash on Android) was originally described as running "flawlessly". If they had just described it as alpha (and realistically, buggy), this would be a non-story.

catch23 16y ago

I'm guessing flash will still crash in the production version, the only difference is that Google will have an android browser similar to Chrome in that flash crashing will not cause the whole browser to crash. I really doubt Adobe can fix all the long standing bugs in Flash before the release if they haven't been able to fix them for the past 5 years.