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"the author mentions the coworker who mentioned that he's shaved his whole body in preparation for a bicycling event... as a relatively young member of society,

by astine 17y ago

"the author mentions the coworker who mentioned that he's shaved his whole body in preparation for a bicycling event... as a relatively young member of society, I see nothing wrong with this information." I think that depends a little on the details provided. I wouldn't want to know whether your total body shave included your scrotum for example. Either way, you're right. I remember listening to people talk about having shaved for racing events long before the advent of 'social media.' I don't think that a lot has changed except for the subsiding of some of the formality of the workplace and a few other things.

crystalis 17y ago
If the author's own conceptions of modesty prevent the accurate conveyance of the horrors (of shorn scrotums!) of immodesty, hasn't he proven his own modesty lacking in utility?
- astine 17y ago
  Are u`you saying modesty is useless because it prevents people from expressing immodest things? If that's the case I think you're confused. Discussing personal hygiene is considered immodest because people shouldn't have to hear about it. It's unpleasant, distracting, and completely irrelevant to most relationships. In other words, news about your scrotum is noise not signal. What should be considered modest and when, I think is a complex issue, whether some things should be kept private at least some of the time, I don't think is up to debate.
  - crystalis 17y ago
    I'm simply saying, somewhat slyly, if a modest person expresses indignation over, e.g., tales of shaving, but their modesty prevents their audience from understanding why this tale could be reasonably offensive (i.e., the difference between "I had to shave my body for my race" and "I had to shave my balls and everything. You know that bit right there? Yeah, I think blah blah blah"), their modesty is doing them a disservice in making them look even more like a fuddy-duddy. More exaggeratedly, if a person's sense of modesty kept their ankles so well covered in warm weather to the point of heat stroke, their modesty has done them a disservice less modest people wouldn't need to deal with.

by astine 17y ago

crystalis 17y ago

If the author's own conceptions of modesty prevent the accurate conveyance of the horrors (of shorn scrotums!) of immodesty, hasn't he proven his own modesty lacking in utility?

astine 17y ago
Are u`you saying modesty is useless because it prevents people from expressing immodest things? If that's the case I think you're confused. Discussing personal hygiene is considered immodest because people shouldn't have to hear about it. It's unpleasant, distracting, and completely irrelevant to most relationships. In other words, news about your scrotum is noise not signal. What should be considered modest and when, I think is a complex issue, whether some things should be kept private at least some of the time, I don't think is up to debate.
- crystalis 17y ago
  I'm simply saying, somewhat slyly, if a modest person expresses indignation over, e.g., tales of shaving, but their modesty prevents their audience from understanding why this tale could be reasonably offensive (i.e., the difference between "I had to shave my body for my race" and "I had to shave my balls and everything. You know that bit right there? Yeah, I think blah blah blah"), their modesty is doing them a disservice in making them look even more like a fuddy-duddy. More exaggeratedly, if a person's sense of modesty kept their ankles so well covered in warm weather to the point of heat stroke, their modesty has done them a disservice less modest people wouldn't need to deal with.