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So he threw ~6k at a random but famous designer, ~3k at a random developer, and got a MVP that works. No idea if the product was successful, but assuming it was
by brianwawok 10y ago
So he threw ~6k at a random but famous designer, ~3k at a random developer, and got a MVP that works. No idea if the product was successful, but assuming it was - he won the lotto.
I bet if 100 people each threw 6k at a designer and 3k at a developer for the same exact product.. about 90-95 of them would not work, or be complete trash.
It seems really hard for a non developer to build a MVP. (I am a developer so not personally, but looking back at reports of someone who does the non-dev MVP thing).
RE clever.do https://app.clever.do/ https://app.clever.do/
Nowhere on the page do I see the price. So hard to tell if they actually get paid ;)
- randomgyatwork 10y agoIn the article there is a link to this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16mWB0J91JQJw0uhQZ1Kq49w39r_-rDTzabwupPOqK8I/edit#gid=1787986341 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16mWB0J91JQJw0uhQZ1Kq...
- brianwawok 10y agoAh, so $0 income. So a MVP that doesn't get a paying customer is not a success to me. Getting 1 or 2 paying customers, even $20, to me validates that people will pay for it. So far, he is 13.5k in the hole for no confirmed paying customers... so still seems an expensive experiment.
- mittya_original 10y agoYes, there are no paying customer yet. So what?
- wjnc 10y agoYou've just blown my bubble. What actions can one take to increase the chance of success?
- saycheese 10y agoWhat exactly do you want to do and why?
- wjnc 10y agoLet others build an MVP without technical skills. How do I break up plans and requirements in bits, so that the chances of success of the contractors rises? How to select contractors? Should I define a stack, or let contractors decoder? Etc. These are obv. the questions OP answers, but as GP points out you need a lot more information to assess the risks in such steps. I wouldn't want to have the next post "How I blew 10K and got nothing in return".
- brianwawok 10y agoSo it's hard. I see people say things like "advertise the product and get a mailing list of people interested, 100k signups mean it's a go", but that has never impressed me that much. If 1/20 MVPs prove to gain traction, and MVPs cost 10k to outsource, you are looking at spending 200k to find something that sticks. I think the top thing is to get the scope down. Make it a mVP not a MVP. Not sure there is a single universal answer. I usually suggest you learn to code so you can do MVP level work for free, but not all people like that answer.
- mittya_original 10y agoWe already got lots of in return, even if there is no revenue yet.
- devoply 10y agoYeah I don't know what extremely talented reliable developer only charged 3k for a good finished MVP product. That sort of guy is kind of a moron or a fluke, and extremely difficult to find.
- mittya_original 10y agoIt's called outsourcing to Russia! You can get amazing devs for 15$ / hour...
- devoply 10y agoAh. That makes a lot of sense.
- mittya_original 10y agoI hope you liked my post!