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:/ Really? Do you know what the job prospect for Salesforce dev's in the upcoming year is?

wayn3 10y ago
These are not meant for "beginner self taught developers". The salesforce platform is meant for people who are already involved with salesforce in some way. Either businesses selling to the enterprise or salespeople trying to add some devskills or god knows what. If you want to "learn programming", this is obviously a pretty stupid idea. I do not know what the job prospets of "salesforce devs" are. As far as I know, there's no such thing as a "salesforce dev". You will certainly be better off studying java if marketability is your concern.
- jamesmp98 10y ago
  I generally know programming I just can't get a job doing it.
  - carroll_dave 10y ago
    Full disclosure: I have been doing Dev Relations at Salesforce for the last 14 years. Salesforce is more than a sales application. Indeed, platform aside, there is customer service, marketing automation, ecommerce and productivity (like google docs et al) as part of the core plug an go application suite. Developers come into the picture when it comes to customizing Salesforce core applications and, due to the platform exposed as Force.com and Heroku, creating new b2b/b2c applications. The developer skills that are effective in this environment are Javascript/HTML/CSS, understanding of oauth and integration technologies (REST, SOAP), database concepts such as triggers and stored procedures. Salesforce provides a server side language, Apex, that is derived from Java. Mobile SDKs are available as well. So, it is a combination of skills that could have been acquired doing development on other platforms. There is a ton of opportunity for Developers in the Salesforce eco-system, indeed demand currently outstrips supply. For a taste https://www.indeed.com/q-Force-Com-Developer-$130,000-jobs.html https://www.indeed.com/q-Force-Com-Developer-$130,000-jobs.h...
    - jamesmp98 10y ago
      Do you think it's possible for a self-taught and (primarily) hobbyist developer to make his way into the market. I figure it might be smart to get into a niche market
      - pchittum 10y ago
        It is definitely possible. I know of a number of people who have done exactly this. In addition to learning the basics with Trailhead, I'd also suggest looking near by for a Salesforce developer group. There is even StackExchange for Salesforce that is completely community driven for having questions answered. (salesforce.stackexchange.com). FYI, I'm another one of the devrel team at Salesforce. Dave went on vacation just before you posted this. Cheers.

wayn3 10y ago

These are not meant for "beginner self taught developers". The salesforce platform is meant for people who are already involved with salesforce in some way. Either businesses selling to the enterprise or salespeople trying to add some devskills or god knows what. If you want to "learn programming", this is obviously a pretty stupid idea. I do not know what the job prospets of "salesforce devs" are. As far as I know, there's no such thing as a "salesforce dev". You will certainly be better off studying java if marketability is your concern.

jamesmp98 10y ago
I generally know programming I just can't get a job doing it.
- carroll_dave 10y ago
  Full disclosure: I have been doing Dev Relations at Salesforce for the last 14 years. Salesforce is more than a sales application. Indeed, platform aside, there is customer service, marketing automation, ecommerce and productivity (like google docs et al) as part of the core plug an go application suite. Developers come into the picture when it comes to customizing Salesforce core applications and, due to the platform exposed as Force.com and Heroku, creating new b2b/b2c applications. The developer skills that are effective in this environment are Javascript/HTML/CSS, understanding of oauth and integration technologies (REST, SOAP), database concepts such as triggers and stored procedures. Salesforce provides a server side language, Apex, that is derived from Java. Mobile SDKs are available as well. So, it is a combination of skills that could have been acquired doing development on other platforms. There is a ton of opportunity for Developers in the Salesforce eco-system, indeed demand currently outstrips supply. For a taste https://www.indeed.com/q-Force-Com-Developer-$130,000-jobs.html https://www.indeed.com/q-Force-Com-Developer-$130,000-jobs.h...
  - jamesmp98 10y ago
    Do you think it's possible for a self-taught and (primarily) hobbyist developer to make his way into the market. I figure it might be smart to get into a niche market
    - pchittum 10y ago
      It is definitely possible. I know of a number of people who have done exactly this. In addition to learning the basics with Trailhead, I'd also suggest looking near by for a Salesforce developer group. There is even StackExchange for Salesforce that is completely community driven for having questions answered. (salesforce.stackexchange.com). FYI, I'm another one of the devrel team at Salesforce. Dave went on vacation just before you posted this. Cheers.