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I have a few problems with this. The law DOES make a distinction based on who did the marking. Your quote clearly states that it refers to people playing the g
by asher_ 10y ago
I have a few problems with this.
The law DOES make a distinction based on who did the marking. Your quote clearly states that it refers to people playing the game, which would exclude the casino.
The cards also weren't marked. The backs were identical. The dealer selectively rotating some cards is what made some identifiable.
The law also says that the player must "substitute and use" marked cards. The casino made the substitution. The cards were marked or tampered with.
Moreover, if this interpretation is correct, and the game is simply invalidated, then it is far more exploitable. In the case of any kind of marked card a player could simply bet huge (randomly) and if they lose invoke this law, invalidating the game.
- gizmo686 10y agoAs I mentioned in another reply, the particular clause referenced above is not what was used. However, your interpretation that the game was "invalidated" is correct. This is not exploitable because it is within the casinos power to not use marked cards. Further, if the casino did use marked cards, and the player won; then the casino could invoke the same law and invalidate the winning. This is essentially what happened in Golden Nugget v. Gemaco (the main precedent cited in this case); where the casino lost big as a result of using non-shuffled decks. Despite the fact that this was clearly the casino's fault, the court ruled that (regardless of fault) because the game was no longer authorized under the Casino Control Act, it was illegal, and any contract based on it was void.
- asher_ 10y agoI don't understand how it's not exploitable. The casino can't control whether cards get marked. They get marked all the time during regular gameplay.
- evgen 10y agoIf the cards are damaged or marked during play the deck is punched and disposed of. After a certain small number of uses, where normal card handling by dealer or players might mark there cards, there deck is punched and disposed of. I would be surprised if a big Vegas casino does not go through a shipping container of card decks every night.
- grzm 10y agoShipping containers are pretty big compared to a deck of cards, even a 20-footer. Looks like an average casino goes through on the order of 1,000 decks of cards a night. https://www.quora.com/How-many-new-decks-of-playing-cards-does-Las-Vegas-go-through-each-year https://www.quora.com/How-many-new-decks-of-playing-cards-do... A thousand decks is about 4 cubic feet, if my math holds up. A 20' container is about 1360 cubic feet.
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