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> There are no "good guys" on the other side. People shouldn't track me, that one's obvious, but they also shouldn't advertise at me, ever. Agree. I think it's

by k1m 10y ago

> There are no "good guys" on the other side. People shouldn't track me, that one's obvious, but they also shouldn't advertise at me, ever. Agree. I think it's unfortunate that so much of the debate around advertising, especially from many on the side of ad blocking, focuses only on the evils of tracking and privacy erosion. This project does it too. From their FAQ: "It is not advertising we are protesting, but advertising insofar as it represents a dominant means of tracking users without their consent." But advertising itself should be protested. I don't know why so many shy away from that. I've been working on a project to promote ad blocking. It's been discussed here on HN before, but I'll link to it anyway. https://blockads.fivefilters.org/acceptable.html https://blockads.fivefilters.org/acceptable.html

djsumdog 10y ago
I've hated ads since I was a kid. I never realized it until back around 2010 when I overheard my friends say, "he really hates advertising. Have you noticed that?" and I was like, "Wait, it's .. noticeable?" Modern advertising is specifically engineered to evoke an emotional response in order to buy a product. The mother/fathers of modern advertising are none other than Edward Bernays and Anna Freud. (Sigmund Freud's nephew and daughter). There's a lot of evidence that Freud resented both of these family members for using his psychoanalyst tools to help industry and government gain profit and power. At the same time, Edward was instrumental in promoting the English version of Freud's book, keeping Sigmund out of the poor house. I highly recommend watching The Century of the Self. It's a multi-part BBC documentary that goes into the history of advertising and consumerism as we see it in our current age.
- sosuke 10y ago
  Oh oh oh, have you seen the advertisements by Sprint. I swear I hear fans kick on in my head to keep it cool when trying to unwrap their current marketing line. They have two Christmas trees (or haircuts) next to each other. One has twice the price because it has 1% more needles or 1% more cut hair. They say "would you pay twice as much for 1% more?". I think it is a genius framing of the data.

by k1m 10y ago

djsumdog 10y ago

I've hated ads since I was a kid. I never realized it until back around 2010 when I overheard my friends say, "he really hates advertising. Have you noticed that?" and I was like, "Wait, it's .. noticeable?" Modern advertising is specifically engineered to evoke an emotional response in order to buy a product. The mother/fathers of modern advertising are none other than Edward Bernays and Anna Freud. (Sigmund Freud's nephew and daughter). There's a lot of evidence that Freud resented both of these family members for using his psychoanalyst tools to help industry and government gain profit and power. At the same time, Edward was instrumental in promoting the English version of Freud's book, keeping Sigmund out of the poor house. I highly recommend watching The Century of the Self. It's a multi-part BBC documentary that goes into the history of advertising and consumerism as we see it in our current age.

sosuke 10y ago
Oh oh oh, have you seen the advertisements by Sprint. I swear I hear fans kick on in my head to keep it cool when trying to unwrap their current marketing line. They have two Christmas trees (or haircuts) next to each other. One has twice the price because it has 1% more needles or 1% more cut hair. They say "would you pay twice as much for 1% more?". I think it is a genius framing of the data.