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But equally there might be a problem with what you're writing if you're attracting trolls. I very much disagree with that. Let's just take the CBC as an examp
by zzalpha 10y ago
But equally there might be a problem with what you're writing if you're attracting trolls.
I very much disagree with that.
Let's just take the CBC as an example. It's an excellent news organization that writes top notch journalism. And for any topic even remotely controversial (e.g., anything related to the indigenous population in Canada), they've had to disable the comment section because it's such a godawful cesspool.
- matart 10y agoCBC comments show you how horrible some people can be. It makes me think that we leave discussion to the discussions sites. Reddit, HN, etc. and just let the news tell the news.
- stan_rogers 10y agoI've used the "block element" feature of uBlock Origin to completely remove the comments from CBC.ca. Frankly, the possibility that I may miss the one insightful comment posted every twenty thousand or so (before it's pushed into "show more" territory) doesn't seem like much of a loss.
- newswriter99 10y agoVice is nowhere remotely close to journalistic professionalism. I'd argue they bait trolls.
- sbarre 10y agoAre you thinking of Vice from 15 years ago when it was just a magazine? Things have changed, you should look at what kind of reporting they are actually doing these days, it might surprise you (in a good way).
- weberc2 10y agoI still see lots of partisan clickbait articles from Vice. Hopefully my sample isn't representative, but I doubt it's an anomaly.
- burger_moon 10y agoThe article that appeared below the OP article was about an internet feud between Nikki minaj and Meek Mill. So you're right, I am surprised but not in a good way.
- sbarre 10y agoMeh, Vice covers a wide spectrum of topics, all aimed at youth.. Some is heavy, some is not.. Find a mainstream (non-topic-specialized) publication that doesn't do that, and I'll be surprised.
- tormeh 10y agoThe Economist?
- astrodust 10y agoThese days The Economist and Teen Vogue have more in common than most are prepared to admit. It's disappointing that the only publications willing to tackle heavy issues are things like Vogue, The Rolling Stone and Vice Magazine. The rest seem content to sit back and take a more academic approach if they take one at all. USA Today, like CNN, is utterly worthless.
- newswriter99 10y agoRolling Stone lost all credibility after publishing that fake rape story.
- astrodust 10y agoOne story, all credibility, huh? You must live in a world where nobody is credible. The New York Times has suffered hits to its credibility, fake photographers, plagiarism and such, but that doesn't necessarily negate all the work done by their talented staff. There's still good work being done there despite those setbacks. It's a fallacy to instantly discount everything as without merit, putting it on the same level as Breitbart. Like always you need to regard things with a critical eye.
- I_HALF_CATS 10y agoVice has no journalism code of ethics. They have no official fact-checking process. I tried fact-checking Vice and it didn't go so well: https://notvice.com/fact-checking-vice-a-fiction-2d4821001163 https://notvice.com/fact-checking-vice-a-fiction-2d482100116...
- jagermo 10y agoVice killed its professionalism for me when they posted the "We are with John McAfee now, suckers" piece without removing the GPS coordinates of the selfies. (https://www.wired.com/2012/12/oops-did-vice-just-give-away-john-mcafees-location-with-this-photo// https://www.wired.com/2012/12/oops-did-vice-just-give-away-j...) In my opinion, Vice is nothing more than a clickbait machine that got somehow famous for being "edgy".
- jagermo 10y agobut you could get rid of that, couldn't you? Switch to "moderate first if user does not have a high enough reputation" for a while. Idiot commenters want their posts to be seen, they thrive on the chaos. Take that away from them and they will move on. Yes, you need a few people willing to go through the filth, but you will get a better online presence out of it.
- zzalpha 10y agoOr don't waste your time and kill comments entirely. Demonstrate the cost/benefit advantage of having to police these garbage piles and maybe I'll buy it. But I don't believe that most people read the Times or CBC or WaPo for the comment section. More likely they read those outlets despite them. I agree with Vice. Leave the discussion to dedicated services like Reddit, HN, Twitter, Facebook, etc, and focus on core competencies: producing top notch content.