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I also have the same type of maxed-out 2011 17" MacBook Pro. The replacement for that I am looking at costs $3500-$4200.

kobeya 10y ago
Sorry that's just not possible. There are gamer targeted systems that are better specs than anything apple ever made (even after market upgrades) in the sun $2k range.
- _ph_ 10y ago
  The problem is, they don't run macOS. And if your whole work-environment is centered around macOS, it is not an easy choice to leave that behind, and consequently, hardware upgrades don't come cheap.
  - kobeya 10y ago
    Sure but that's a different point.
    - _ph_ 10y ago
      No, if he wants to be a replacement, one has to assume he wants to be compatible and keep using the applications he currently uses. Any non-Mac system might be an "alternative" but not a "replacement".
      - jamespo 10y ago
        $2k buys a lot of applications
        _ph_ 10y ago
        The problem is with changing the software environment. Most applications are not available on all operation systems. So your hunt starts for solutions where the application is not available on other operation systems.
        bholzer 10y ago
        But it won't buy the magical ability for a built PC to run macOS. I don't care about the applications, I care about the underlying OS
        beat 10y ago
        It's not just applications, it's time. I'm in the middle of producing a 17 song concept album. If I switch platforms, I have to completely redo all my mixes and learn a whole lot of new tooling. What's the cost of that? Dozens of hours of my time...
    - ncallaway 10y ago
      No, that was exactly their point. You responded to a different point.
- coldtea 10y ago
  >There are gamer targeted systems that are better specs than anything apple ever made Which is irrelevant. I don't a "gamer system". I want thin, light, excellent construction, and good battery life, great trackpad, and a good enough CPU/GPU to achieve all that. Comparable Mac and PC systems for that cost $2000 and way up...
  - kobeya 10y ago
    Sure. But the post I was replying to said $3500-$4200.
    - coldtea 10y ago
      Yeah, but he also wanted the 1TB ultra-fast SSD option. The comparable standalone SSD modules at that speed go for $800 or so.

kobeya 10y ago

Sorry that's just not possible. There are gamer targeted systems that are better specs than anything apple ever made (even after market upgrades) in the sun $2k range.

_ph_ 10y ago
The problem is, they don't run macOS. And if your whole work-environment is centered around macOS, it is not an easy choice to leave that behind, and consequently, hardware upgrades don't come cheap.
- kobeya 10y ago
  Sure but that's a different point.
  - _ph_ 10y ago
    No, if he wants to be a replacement, one has to assume he wants to be compatible and keep using the applications he currently uses. Any non-Mac system might be an "alternative" but not a "replacement".
    - jamespo 10y ago
      $2k buys a lot of applications
      - _ph_ 10y ago
        The problem is with changing the software environment. Most applications are not available on all operation systems. So your hunt starts for solutions where the application is not available on other operation systems.
      - bholzer 10y ago
        But it won't buy the magical ability for a built PC to run macOS. I don't care about the applications, I care about the underlying OS
      - beat 10y ago
        It's not just applications, it's time. I'm in the middle of producing a 17 song concept album. If I switch platforms, I have to completely redo all my mixes and learn a whole lot of new tooling. What's the cost of that? Dozens of hours of my time...
  - ncallaway 10y ago
    No, that was exactly their point. You responded to a different point.
coldtea 10y ago
>There are gamer targeted systems that are better specs than anything apple ever made Which is irrelevant. I don't a "gamer system". I want thin, light, excellent construction, and good battery life, great trackpad, and a good enough CPU/GPU to achieve all that. Comparable Mac and PC systems for that cost $2000 and way up...
- kobeya 10y ago
  Sure. But the post I was replying to said $3500-$4200.
  - coldtea 10y ago
    Yeah, but he also wanted the 1TB ultra-fast SSD option. The comparable standalone SSD modules at that speed go for $800 or so.