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For me, there's still no alternative. And I also will not recommend anything but a Mac to friends and family. They just have the best personal computer on the m

by scrrr 10y ago

For me, there's still no alternative. And I also will not recommend anything but a Mac to friends and family. They just have the best personal computer on the market, period.

kris-s 10y ago
Not to mention the added benefit of being able to say "Take it the Apple store".
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- natch 10y ago
  Not to mention the benefit of taking your own to the Apple store when needed. And the insane degree to which they bend over backwards to fix things free, even more so if you bought direct from Apple and have AppleCare.
- izacus 10y ago
  Well... unless the closest one is two countries away. :P
cupofjoakim 10y ago
This response would've been exactly what I'd say like a year ago. The thing is that while a mac has in history delivered a better experience I'm not quite sure that's still the case. If you're buying premium hardware for a windows machine you'll still get a very stabile workstation. I think it's just a tool in a toolbox and that your personal choice should depends on what you're using it for. Actually, hadn't it been for xcode being macOS only, i'd probably be on a linux machine right now, and if I worked more with 3D modelling I'd be on a windows machine due to the better availability of hardware/software.
ythn 10y ago
Out of all the devices I've ever owned, my Apple devices have had the most hardware failures. My iPhone 4S's headphone jack stopped working. I bought a replacement and installed it myself (which was a nightmare) but it was still broken. Turns out the logic board had an issue and replacing that is hundreds of dollars. My Macbook Pro 2010's hard drive cable failed. New one was $50. I've never had any hardware issues with my PCs or Android phones. Sure, they arguably have more software issues, but those are "free" for me to fix. Apple may be a good fit for some people, but it's too expensive for my blood. I'm not paying $1500 for a laptop only to shell out another $50 a year later for a hard drive cable. That's bullcrap considering my $150 chromebook has been running for 4 years now with 0 issues.
- WaltPurvis 10y ago
  This has been my experience also. It seems like Apple is delivering premium hardware and build quality -- they're certainly charging premium prices -- but in my family I can think of at least five show-stopping hardware failures with Apple products in the past few years, and zero such failures with a comparable number of Windows/Android devices. In addition, Apple's hardware specs no longer justify premium prices, in most cases. With Apple these days (and especially for Macs) the simple fact is you're paying a high price for underwhelming hardware that's not especially reliable. I still strongly prefer the Mac OS, so I can't see myself buying a Windows PC anytime soon, but I'm not a happy customer.
  - Pigo 10y ago
    I can appreciate, and respect, a user who is honest about a preference. People who throw out "it just works" give you guys a bad name.
  - TheOneTrueKyle 10y ago
    Hackintosh it up. Youy won't regret it
    - WaltPurvis 10y ago
      I do use a Hackintosh for my desktop, but that's not really a viable option for the general public, and even for myself I'd prefer to just have Apple start selling decent desktops again.
      - TheOneTrueKyle 10y ago
        Yeah I agree. My 2010 MBP isn't going to last much longer and have no idea where to go after it dies.
- awj 10y ago
  As a counter-anecdote, my Apple devices seem to be the only ones that don't give me problems.
Veen 10y ago
Yeah, I don't want to switch for the same reasons, but this will be the first time I've actively resented buying a Mac. I've always understood that I'd pay premium prices for premium quality, but with the new MacBook Pro, I feel like my allegiance to MacOS is being exploited. They're simply too expensive, especially if, like me, you like in the U.K. or Europe.
billoday 10y ago
Agreed - they still make the best computers, we just wish they were as good as last year's.
dabit3 10y ago
I agree, and for me it all comes down to the OS. I've tried using other computers and operating systems, but as a software developer, my income and livelihood depend on me being able to produce code and do so efficiently. I'm more than willing to spend $2500 on a computer, one that I will one day be able to sell for ~$1000 if my past experiences hold true in the future, that works smoothly without hiccups and has a pristine top of the line OS that works seamlessly with all of the programs I run. I've tried Linux and like it, but some things just do not run the same as on my Mac. I've also tried Windows recently and the OS just feels gross, slow, and buggy after working with macOS and Linux.
sidcool 10y ago
Not really, Microsoft has build some good and affordable machines. Had it been only to Mac, computers would wouldn't have reached the mass market. Same with iPhones.
Nekorosu 10y ago
And that's the problem. I do want to move away from MacOS but I don't see anything better yet. And there are a lot of useful apps unique to Apple's ecosystem and iCloud. Well, looks like I'm knee-deep in a vendor lock-in.
slantyyz 10y ago
>> And I also will not recommend anything but a Mac to friends and family. They just have the best personal computer on the market, period. Shouldn't you at least ask what your friends and family intend to do with their computer? Macs are great in general, but they're not great at everything, so you shouldn't just give a blanket recommendation for a Mac without considering how it's going to be used.

by scrrr 10y ago

For me, there's still no alternative. And I also will not recommend anything but a Mac to friends and family. They just have the best personal computer on the market, period.

kris-s 10y ago

Not to mention the added benefit of being able to say "Take it the Apple store".

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natch 10y ago
Not to mention the benefit of taking your own to the Apple store when needed. And the insane degree to which they bend over backwards to fix things free, even more so if you bought direct from Apple and have AppleCare.
izacus 10y ago
Well... unless the closest one is two countries away. :P

cupofjoakim 10y ago

This response would've been exactly what I'd say like a year ago. The thing is that while a mac has in history delivered a better experience I'm not quite sure that's still the case. If you're buying premium hardware for a windows machine you'll still get a very stabile workstation. I think it's just a tool in a toolbox and that your personal choice should depends on what you're using it for. Actually, hadn't it been for xcode being macOS only, i'd probably be on a linux machine right now, and if I worked more with 3D modelling I'd be on a windows machine due to the better availability of hardware/software.

ythn 10y ago

Out of all the devices I've ever owned, my Apple devices have had the most hardware failures. My iPhone 4S's headphone jack stopped working. I bought a replacement and installed it myself (which was a nightmare) but it was still broken. Turns out the logic board had an issue and replacing that is hundreds of dollars. My Macbook Pro 2010's hard drive cable failed. New one was $50. I've never had any hardware issues with my PCs or Android phones. Sure, they arguably have more software issues, but those are "free" for me to fix. Apple may be a good fit for some people, but it's too expensive for my blood. I'm not paying $1500 for a laptop only to shell out another $50 a year later for a hard drive cable. That's bullcrap considering my $150 chromebook has been running for 4 years now with 0 issues.

WaltPurvis 10y ago
This has been my experience also. It seems like Apple is delivering premium hardware and build quality -- they're certainly charging premium prices -- but in my family I can think of at least five show-stopping hardware failures with Apple products in the past few years, and zero such failures with a comparable number of Windows/Android devices. In addition, Apple's hardware specs no longer justify premium prices, in most cases. With Apple these days (and especially for Macs) the simple fact is you're paying a high price for underwhelming hardware that's not especially reliable. I still strongly prefer the Mac OS, so I can't see myself buying a Windows PC anytime soon, but I'm not a happy customer.
- Pigo 10y ago
  I can appreciate, and respect, a user who is honest about a preference. People who throw out "it just works" give you guys a bad name.
- TheOneTrueKyle 10y ago
  Hackintosh it up. Youy won't regret it
  - WaltPurvis 10y ago
    I do use a Hackintosh for my desktop, but that's not really a viable option for the general public, and even for myself I'd prefer to just have Apple start selling decent desktops again.
    - TheOneTrueKyle 10y ago
      Yeah I agree. My 2010 MBP isn't going to last much longer and have no idea where to go after it dies.
awj 10y ago
As a counter-anecdote, my Apple devices seem to be the only ones that don't give me problems.

Veen 10y ago

Yeah, I don't want to switch for the same reasons, but this will be the first time I've actively resented buying a Mac. I've always understood that I'd pay premium prices for premium quality, but with the new MacBook Pro, I feel like my allegiance to MacOS is being exploited. They're simply too expensive, especially if, like me, you like in the U.K. or Europe.

billoday 10y ago

Agreed - they still make the best computers, we just wish they were as good as last year's.

dabit3 10y ago

I agree, and for me it all comes down to the OS. I've tried using other computers and operating systems, but as a software developer, my income and livelihood depend on me being able to produce code and do so efficiently. I'm more than willing to spend $2500 on a computer, one that I will one day be able to sell for ~$1000 if my past experiences hold true in the future, that works smoothly without hiccups and has a pristine top of the line OS that works seamlessly with all of the programs I run. I've tried Linux and like it, but some things just do not run the same as on my Mac. I've also tried Windows recently and the OS just feels gross, slow, and buggy after working with macOS and Linux.

sidcool 10y ago

Not really, Microsoft has build some good and affordable machines. Had it been only to Mac, computers would wouldn't have reached the mass market. Same with iPhones.

Nekorosu 10y ago

And that's the problem. I do want to move away from MacOS but I don't see anything better yet. And there are a lot of useful apps unique to Apple's ecosystem and iCloud. Well, looks like I'm knee-deep in a vendor lock-in.

slantyyz 10y ago

>> And I also will not recommend anything but a Mac to friends and family. They just have the best personal computer on the market, period. Shouldn't you at least ask what your friends and family intend to do with their computer? Macs are great in general, but they're not great at everything, so you shouldn't just give a blanket recommendation for a Mac without considering how it's going to be used.