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> I don't get the attraction of luxury laptop lines at this point. I'd love a luxury laptop: a machine I could upgrade and maintain with minimum hassle, a mach

> I don't get the attraction of luxury laptop lines at this point. I'd love a luxury laptop: a machine I could upgrade and maintain with minimum hassle, a machine with a properly designed cooling system that would last years without breaking down. Apple doesn't make those anymore. It makes machines with parts glued together, and drives soldered to the board, whose GPUs overheat and die after a few months.

kalleboo 10y ago
Venturing into car analogy territory, luxury cars are notorious for needing a lot of (expensive) maintenance and not having user-accessible repairs. You want either a daily driver car or a ricer. (I don't disagree - Apple used to manage to make computers that were a rare a meld of all kinds - the eminently upgradeable PowerMac G4 with the hinged door! - but not any longer)
- charlesism 10y ago
  My metaphor is leaking! My point is that I would be quite happy to buy a $3000 machine if it were stelar quality, and I could rely on it for the next five years. Some people will always pay top dollar for pro gear. If you use and rely on a piece of equipment enough, it's worth it.
  - hguant 10y ago
    > My point is that I would be quite happy to buy a $3000 machine if it were stelar quality, and I could rely on it for the next five years. Well if that's what you're into... http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade-pro http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade-pro One downside is that the battery life is crap (5 hours or so)...and the base price is $3600.
    - charlesism 10y ago
      If it's as durable and upgradable as its price, I might go for it. The other issue for me is OS, but if I address that I'm veering off topic.
      - hguant 10y ago
        Yeah I don't think you could get macOS running on this, but Linux has good drivers out there for most of the bits (maybe minus the chroma keyboard).
    - marcoperaza 10y ago
      Hahaha, that thing looks amazing. Mechanical keyboard on a laptop!? 17" 4k display! Someone built my dream laptop then added $2000 to the price ;)
      - squilliam 10y ago
        LinusTechTips on YouTube just uploaded a review of this machine and was extremely negative towards the keyboard.
    - willismichael 10y ago
      Wow, at seven and a half pounds that thing is a monster, but I suppose the specs and build quality justify it.

kalleboo 10y ago

Venturing into car analogy territory, luxury cars are notorious for needing a lot of (expensive) maintenance and not having user-accessible repairs. You want either a daily driver car or a ricer. (I don't disagree - Apple used to manage to make computers that were a rare a meld of all kinds - the eminently upgradeable PowerMac G4 with the hinged door! - but not any longer)

charlesism 10y ago
My metaphor is leaking! My point is that I would be quite happy to buy a $3000 machine if it were stelar quality, and I could rely on it for the next five years. Some people will always pay top dollar for pro gear. If you use and rely on a piece of equipment enough, it's worth it.
- hguant 10y ago
  > My point is that I would be quite happy to buy a $3000 machine if it were stelar quality, and I could rely on it for the next five years. Well if that's what you're into... http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade-pro http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade-pro One downside is that the battery life is crap (5 hours or so)...and the base price is $3600.
  - charlesism 10y ago
    If it's as durable and upgradable as its price, I might go for it. The other issue for me is OS, but if I address that I'm veering off topic.
    - hguant 10y ago
      Yeah I don't think you could get macOS running on this, but Linux has good drivers out there for most of the bits (maybe minus the chroma keyboard).
  - marcoperaza 10y ago
    Hahaha, that thing looks amazing. Mechanical keyboard on a laptop!? 17" 4k display! Someone built my dream laptop then added $2000 to the price ;)
    - squilliam 10y ago
      LinusTechTips on YouTube just uploaded a review of this machine and was extremely negative towards the keyboard.
  - willismichael 10y ago
    Wow, at seven and a half pounds that thing is a monster, but I suppose the specs and build quality justify it.