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This discussion has been had on HN so many times, it would be difficult for me to summarize (but easy for one to search via algolia). Signal's creator runs the

This discussion has been had on HN so many times, it would be difficult for me to summarize (but easy for one to search via algolia). Signal's creator runs their own email server, but always points out that 99% of the time, they are communicating with gmail on the other side. This subverts the decentralized nature of email. XMPP is not a mobile friendly protocol. Even the Matrix.org folks are doing XMPP compatibility, but not implementing XMPP directly. My point is, "don't align with the business of acquiring monetizeable users" is not entirely true, and there are technical reasons (not just business reasons). Everyone with an interest in this problem should be on the same page, and holding overly cynical views about the impediments isn't (IMO) conducive to creating solutions.

koolba 10y ago
It doesn't have to be the mobile platform but it could be one interface of many. Having separate XMPP servers acting as the middle men forwarding messages to each other would have been awesome. The last leg delivery from your server to your device could be something else, possibly more optimized for the technical limitations of mobile transit. We even had a piece of this for a while as Google and I think a couple other messaging providers had XMPP support but it's gradually been killed off. The "business interests" part of this is that anybody creating a monetizeable user base via a messaging network wouldn't give the opening to others to come in via XMPP. It gives your users a way out and gives your competitors a way in.
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