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Adobe CTO Kevin Lynch: We're going to make the best tools in the world for HTML5
- petervandijck 16y agoThat is pretty good news.
- sjsivak 16y agoI have been saying this since the first proclamation that HTML5 will kill Flash. It will not kill Flash CS it will kill the Flash Player. Artist and designers still need a tool to build content, Flash CS will continue to be that tool.
- not_an_alien 16y agoReally? http://www.craftymind.com/guimark2/ http://www.craftymind.com/guimark2/ So less features, slower adoption, and worse performance will kill the Flash Player. Interesting.
- ahoyhere 16y agoAny seasoned Adobe user will know that when Adobe says "we'll make" they mean "in the next 5 years" and "the best" they mean "moderately decent, will still crash a lot, also be frustratingly inconsistent".
- dman 16y agoAdobe needs to get over their "We will ship when its done" way of doing things. They have a ~18 months - 24 month cycle to refresh products. I think in todays day and age thats too long. Adobe tools do not currently fit in well with either RoR, Django or jquery.
- raganwald 16y agoQuote: It’s not about HTML 5 vs Flash. They’re mutually beneficial. The more important question is the freedom of choice on the web... Look at the iPhone helicopter we just saw — why should I only be able to use an iPhone for that? Why can’t you do that with any phone? If you look at what’s going on now, it’s like railroads in the 1800′s. People were using different gauged rails. Your cars would literally not run on those rails. That’s counter to the web. The ‘rails’ now are companies forcing people to write for a particular OS, which has a high cost to switch. Translation: We will lower the cost to switch phones by moving the switching cost out of the hardware and into the tooling. Then we will benefit because you will need to buy our tools to write applications and you won't be able to switch tools. Adobe will make all the tracks the same gauge, but you won't be able to manufacture a locomotive without their tools. p.s. I upmodded this post because it's important to hear what they have to say, not because I support what they're saying.
- ilike 16y agoUpvoting!=I agree Upvoting==This story deserves to be popular.
- not_an_alien 16y agoFunny, because you're able to create SWF content using only free, open source software, including their own compiler. I don't believe your point holds. Do you ever do any Flash work?
- davidedicillo 16y ago> We’re going to make great tooling for HTML5. We’re going to make the best tools in the world for HTML 5. This is a good news. No shipping day: not really a good news, if we are lucky we'll see it with CS7 > We’re focusing on everybody else. There’s a huge wave of innovation, there’s going to be a wide range of devices. I think it would be fair to say that smartphones have been around for at least 5 years. I can't recall to see a huge wave of phones using Flash in a decent way > Regarding the prototype tablet that has been shown off at Web 2.0, there are a bunch of manufacturers building devices with those guts. Prototype =! successful product. We'll revisit this statement when those manufactures will ship a million of those devices in 28 days.
- reitzensteinm 16y agoThey should start by making the best tools in the world for Flash development! I personally use HaXe, it's significantly better than Flex, which is kind of sickening because it's mainly written by one guy.
- csmeder 16y agoSo has Adobe just basically said: "Hey Steve Job's is right to not put Flash on the iPad, the real solution for Adobe is to move into the future, its just that we are lazy and greedy so we didn't want to do this, but Steve is forcing us to be a better company!"
- ergo98 16y agoYeah, something like that. Only Steve Jobs is FULL OF SHIT. How many HTML5 games are you playing on your iPhone? Humorously I thought I'd see how the HTML5 game scene is like on my Nexus One, and it turns that virtually all of them rely upon either a keyboard or mouse interactions that I can't simulate. And of course they all run like garbage (sidenote: though they still run vastly better on the N1 than they run on the 3GS) For people to repeat this utter nonsense is a sad, sad statement about society.
- not_an_alien 16y agoNo. They're saying there's a bunch of inane people who think Adobe is against HTML5 and that HTML5 is the death of Flash, while it isn't.
- csmeder 16y agogood counter point
- Terretta 16y agoBut look at the iPhone helicopter we just saw — why should I only be able to use an iPhone for that? Why can’t you do that with any phone? If you look at what’s going on now, it’s like railroads in the 1800′s. People were using different gauged rails. Your cars would literally not run on those rails. That’s counter to the web. The ‘rails’ now are companies forcing people to write for a particular OS, which has a high cost to switch. What a silly argument. But look at the Quickbooks app we just saw. Why should I only be able to use Windows for that? Why can't you do that with any OS? If you look at what’s going on now, it’s like railroads in the 1800′s. People were using different gauged rails. Your cars would literally not run on those rails. That’s counter to personal computing. The ‘rails’ now are companies forcing people to write for a particular OS, which has a high cost to switch. (Footnote: QB for Mac is not the same product or feature set.) But look at the SUV we just saw. Why should I only be able to use gasoline for that? Why can't you run that with any fuel? If you look at what’s going on now, it’s like railroads in the 1800′s. People were using different gauged rails. Your cars would literally not run on those rails. That’s counter to the open road. The ‘rails’ now are companies forcing car buyers to buy SUVs for a particular fuel, which has a high cost to switch. Etc. This is the sort of thing markets decide.