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The sociopathic entities we call governments are far more powerful and do far more damage than those we call companies. MacDonalds has yet to bomb anyone that I

The sociopathic entities we call governments are far more powerful and do far more damage than those we call companies. MacDonalds has yet to bomb anyone that I am aware of, and I can't recall Google using force to prevent someone leaving a country, or Amazon water-boarding people it has captured through overseas kidnapping.

frgtpsswrdlame 10y ago
You're proving his point.
microtherion 10y ago
Corporations generally don't do their own bombing and waterboarding, but they sure hire OTHERS to do their bombing and waterboarding for them. Cf Pepsi's role in the Chilean coup https://www.theguardian.com/business/1998/nov/08/observerbusiness.theobserver https://www.theguardian.com/business/1998/nov/08/observerbus... or the United Fruit company's role in Colombia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_massacre or Guatemala https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobo_Árbenz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobo_Árbenz And of course, in their regular operation, many companies routinely pollute the environment: http://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/05/10722/koch-industries-toxic-gifts-wisconsin http://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/05/10722/koch-industries-to... Funny how libertarians never seem to consider dumping millions of lbs of poison into the environment an "initiation of force", but god forbid government raise taxes by one cent.
- lacampbell 10y ago
  If you want to play the game of "find the worst things corporations have done to prove they are worse than states", then you will surely lose. How does the actions of those corporations compare to say the bombing of Hiroshima, or the Great Leap Forward, or the Holocaust? It's also worth noting - both of your examples involved the state actually doing the dirty work. Funny how libertarians never seem to consider dumping millions of lbs of poison into the environment an "initiation of force" Citation needed - AFAIK there is no such consensus.

frgtpsswrdlame 10y ago

You're proving his point.

microtherion 10y ago

Corporations generally don't do their own bombing and waterboarding, but they sure hire OTHERS to do their bombing and waterboarding for them. Cf Pepsi's role in the Chilean coup https://www.theguardian.com/business/1998/nov/08/observerbusiness.theobserver https://www.theguardian.com/business/1998/nov/08/observerbus... or the United Fruit company's role in Colombia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_massacre or Guatemala https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobo_Árbenz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobo_Árbenz And of course, in their regular operation, many companies routinely pollute the environment: http://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/05/10722/koch-industries-toxic-gifts-wisconsin http://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/05/10722/koch-industries-to... Funny how libertarians never seem to consider dumping millions of lbs of poison into the environment an "initiation of force", but god forbid government raise taxes by one cent.

lacampbell 10y ago
If you want to play the game of "find the worst things corporations have done to prove they are worse than states", then you will surely lose. How does the actions of those corporations compare to say the bombing of Hiroshima, or the Great Leap Forward, or the Holocaust? It's also worth noting - both of your examples involved the state actually doing the dirty work. Funny how libertarians never seem to consider dumping millions of lbs of poison into the environment an "initiation of force" Citation needed - AFAIK there is no such consensus.