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Lol your entire family is being data-mined, and your kids will grow up to feel like this is normal, good job. Hope it was worth the convenience.

by kakarot 10y ago

ThomPete 10y ago
You are being datamined just being on this website. True but trivial.
- kakarot 10y ago
  Well of course. But that is certainly different than having a Google-powered microphone that is always listening.
  - ThomPete 10y ago
    Well a microphone cant hear what website you are visiting. So not sure what your point is.
    - kakarot 10y ago
      I'm not sure what your point is? As if knowledge of me visiting a public site is comparable to Google having an always-on microphone that probably is riddled with 0days and has constant internet activity that can easily mask a malicious connection? it only takes approximately 10 minutes of recorded audio to interpret individual keystrokes with a ~96% accuracy. [1] Google / NSA / foreign state hackers / your next door neighbor could potentially find or pay for an exploit to the device and have all of your passwords down within a few days. All of your children's passwords. It can reconstruct every message you've typed in range of the microphone. Ergo unless you rely on bookmarks and not the address bar, it can in fact track which websites you visit. Furthermore, it could interact with ultrasonic sounds emitted by your computer speakers to track your ad experience, and if you live in a malevolent state, to locate you. [2] If your kids are a problem to the police state, they will be identified and marked before they even know they want to be political activists. This is the world you aren't only allowing, but are defending as well. [1] http://rakesh.agrawal-family.com/papers/ssp04kba.pdf http://rakesh.agrawal-family.com/papers/ssp04kba.pdf, https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tygar/papers/Keyboard_Acoustic_Emanations_Revisited/tiss.preprint.pdf https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tygar/papers/Keyboard_Acou... [2] http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/11/beware-of-ads-that-use-inaudible-sound-to-link-your-phone-tv-tablet-and-pc/ http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/11/beware-of-ads-tha...
      - ThomPete 10y ago
        You would be surprised what you visiting public sites can be used for. Insurance purposes for instance. You should be much more worried about that. And then there are the ISPs you use to access the internet. Or the cellphone tracking your wereabouts or your camera and your microphone on your laptop. Or your router. I could go on. If that's what you are afraid of that game is already lost.
        kakarot 10y ago
        Why do you insist on thinking I'm also not concerned about those forms of unlawful surveillance? You're trying to invalidate my legitimate concern over a device's security implications by telling me other devices have security implications as well. No shit.

Lol your entire family is being data-mined, and your kids will grow up to feel like this is normal, good job. Hope it was worth the convenience.

by kakarot 10y ago

Lol your entire family is being data-mined, and your kids will grow up to feel like this is normal, good job. Hope it was worth the convenience.

ThomPete 10y ago

You are being datamined just being on this website. True but trivial.

kakarot 10y ago
Well of course. But that is certainly different than having a Google-powered microphone that is always listening.
- ThomPete 10y ago
  Well a microphone cant hear what website you are visiting. So not sure what your point is.
  - kakarot 10y ago
    I'm not sure what your point is? As if knowledge of me visiting a public site is comparable to Google having an always-on microphone that probably is riddled with 0days and has constant internet activity that can easily mask a malicious connection? it only takes approximately 10 minutes of recorded audio to interpret individual keystrokes with a ~96% accuracy. [1] Google / NSA / foreign state hackers / your next door neighbor could potentially find or pay for an exploit to the device and have all of your passwords down within a few days. All of your children's passwords. It can reconstruct every message you've typed in range of the microphone. Ergo unless you rely on bookmarks and not the address bar, it can in fact track which websites you visit. Furthermore, it could interact with ultrasonic sounds emitted by your computer speakers to track your ad experience, and if you live in a malevolent state, to locate you. [2] If your kids are a problem to the police state, they will be identified and marked before they even know they want to be political activists. This is the world you aren't only allowing, but are defending as well. [1] http://rakesh.agrawal-family.com/papers/ssp04kba.pdf http://rakesh.agrawal-family.com/papers/ssp04kba.pdf, https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tygar/papers/Keyboard_Acoustic_Emanations_Revisited/tiss.preprint.pdf https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tygar/papers/Keyboard_Acou... [2] http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/11/beware-of-ads-that-use-inaudible-sound-to-link-your-phone-tv-tablet-and-pc/ http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/11/beware-of-ads-tha...
    - ThomPete 10y ago
      You would be surprised what you visiting public sites can be used for. Insurance purposes for instance. You should be much more worried about that. And then there are the ISPs you use to access the internet. Or the cellphone tracking your wereabouts or your camera and your microphone on your laptop. Or your router. I could go on. If that's what you are afraid of that game is already lost.
      - kakarot 10y ago
        Why do you insist on thinking I'm also not concerned about those forms of unlawful surveillance? You're trying to invalidate my legitimate concern over a device's security implications by telling me other devices have security implications as well. No shit.