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>It is time to rethink the “good leader” prototype of being masculine, dictatorial, and charismatic. Good luck, there's a reason those attributes are dominant.

by Torgo 10y ago

jchrisa 10y ago
But they don't correlate with shareholder value.
salmonet 10y ago
Agreed. Anecdotally, uncharismatic, feminine pushovers seem to be less effective in leadership positions.
n00b101 10y ago
">It is time to rethink the “good leader” prototype of being masculine, dictatorial, and charismatic. Good luck, there's a reason those attributes are dominant." I agree, and I think it is a ridiculous and offensive conclusion that the authors are making here. They are perpetuating a stereotype of Asians based on a claim that "Eastern cultural norms encourage humility and deference to authority." Firstly, this claim is not based on any data. I am reluctant to accept the stereotype that everyone in Asia is the opposite of "masculine, dictatorial, and charismatic," especially people who are candidates for positions of leadership. Did anyone go to Asian companies and see that all their executives are all feminine, un-charismatic, pushovers? Secondly, even if we take this claim of an "inferior leadership culture" seriously, it can only logically apply to unassimilated Asian immigrants. What about Asian Americans, people who are born here? Are we to believe that they are all also all "feminine, un-charismatic, pushovers?" This seems like a post hoc, pseudo-scientific justification for what is really an executive and baord level diversity issue.
- nylonstrung 10y ago
  >Did anyone go to Asian companies and see that all their executives are all feminine, un-charismatic, pushovers? Racist stereotypes don't have to be logical. >Are we to believe that they are all also all "feminine, un-charismatic, pushovers?" When is the last time you've seen media depict an Asian male as sexual virile? When is the last time you've seen an Asian male kiss a woman on screen in Western media. For every one instance I can think of 10 depictions of exactly what you described. I say this not because the media is solely the cause of these perceptions but it is clearly representative of the greater societal attitudes at play here.
drewrv 10y ago
I doubt the reason is that those traits make a good leader. More likely its's because we're all 96% chimpanzee.
__derek__ 10y ago
Yes, confirmation bias and superstition.
- acedinlowball 10y ago
  Wrong.
EdHominem 10y ago
Sure, because in the past if you disagreed those people would have killed you and taken what they wanted. Now we just give it to them to avoid the strife. But there's very little (none?) evidence that a traditional "strong" (bully) leader is more effective than a committee. Modern businesses tend to understand this because they appoint a strong CEOs but manage them with a board which retains ultimate power. Sadly, this wisdom has yet to reach the electorate. When we elect a bully we give them free run. (Even in a country like Canada with the Prime Minster chosen by the party, the party rarely controls them.)

>It is time to rethink the “good leader” prototype of being masculine, dictatorial, and charismatic. Good luck, there's a reason those attributes are dominant.

by Torgo 10y ago

>It is time to rethink the “good leader” prototype of being masculine, dictatorial, and charismatic. Good luck, there's a reason those attributes are dominant.

jchrisa 10y ago

But they don't correlate with shareholder value.

salmonet 10y ago

Agreed. Anecdotally, uncharismatic, feminine pushovers seem to be less effective in leadership positions.

n00b101 10y ago

">It is time to rethink the “good leader” prototype of being masculine, dictatorial, and charismatic. Good luck, there's a reason those attributes are dominant." I agree, and I think it is a ridiculous and offensive conclusion that the authors are making here. They are perpetuating a stereotype of Asians based on a claim that "Eastern cultural norms encourage humility and deference to authority." Firstly, this claim is not based on any data. I am reluctant to accept the stereotype that everyone in Asia is the opposite of "masculine, dictatorial, and charismatic," especially people who are candidates for positions of leadership. Did anyone go to Asian companies and see that all their executives are all feminine, un-charismatic, pushovers? Secondly, even if we take this claim of an "inferior leadership culture" seriously, it can only logically apply to unassimilated Asian immigrants. What about Asian Americans, people who are born here? Are we to believe that they are all also all "feminine, un-charismatic, pushovers?" This seems like a post hoc, pseudo-scientific justification for what is really an executive and baord level diversity issue.

nylonstrung 10y ago
>Did anyone go to Asian companies and see that all their executives are all feminine, un-charismatic, pushovers? Racist stereotypes don't have to be logical. >Are we to believe that they are all also all "feminine, un-charismatic, pushovers?" When is the last time you've seen media depict an Asian male as sexual virile? When is the last time you've seen an Asian male kiss a woman on screen in Western media. For every one instance I can think of 10 depictions of exactly what you described. I say this not because the media is solely the cause of these perceptions but it is clearly representative of the greater societal attitudes at play here.

drewrv 10y ago

I doubt the reason is that those traits make a good leader. More likely its's because we're all 96% chimpanzee.

__derek__ 10y ago

Yes, confirmation bias and superstition.

acedinlowball 10y ago
Wrong.

EdHominem 10y ago

Sure, because in the past if you disagreed those people would have killed you and taken what they wanted. Now we just give it to them to avoid the strife. But there's very little (none?) evidence that a traditional "strong" (bully) leader is more effective than a committee. Modern businesses tend to understand this because they appoint a strong CEOs but manage them with a board which retains ultimate power. Sadly, this wisdom has yet to reach the electorate. When we elect a bully we give them free run. (Even in a country like Canada with the Prime Minster chosen by the party, the party rarely controls them.)