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[ObOfftopic] Hmm. Site blacklists me from using site till I turn off adblocker. I view that as "Program that refuses to run until I turn off Antivirus". Both

by kefka 10y ago

[ObOfftopic] Hmm. Site blacklists me from using site till I turn off adblocker. I view that as "Program that refuses to run until I turn off Antivirus". Both avenues are ways for a machine to become infected. Adblockers prevent a known avenue of attack: js based 0-days and drive-by attacks.

srose3100 10y ago
I agree, sites that enforce disabling add block should not be allowed to be posted here.
yossarianium 10y ago
I am really hoping that companies are measuring the bounce rate for these types of tactics. When I see one of these I could become a subscriber and log in, I could whitelist the site's advertisements, or I could open Web Inspector and disable the popup layer manually, but I don't do anything of these things. I acknowledge its existence and hit the back button.
- kefka 10y ago
  I just sent a LinkedIn email (yeah, spammy horrendous-ness all of its own, but I digress) to Malcolm CasSelle, the CTO of Tronc, the owner of the Chicago Tribune. This is the contents. _________________ I'm [kefka], a systems engineer. I regularly read Hacker News, https://news.ycombinator.com https://news.ycombinator.com . A user linked to a story on your property, ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13206294 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13206294 ) which goes to ( http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-ghost-shark-captured-on-camera-20161217-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-ghost-shar... ). It's the response that your website gives me when I try to go to said link: " Advertising revenue helps support our journalism To read today's stories, please turn off your ad blocker or subscribe" I get that your company needs to make money, which I greatly understand and get. However, asking me to quit my adblocker or otherwise disable it is unconscionable. Advertisement servers have been one of root ways drive-by attacks are dome on users, combined with Javascript attack ads that end up with millions hacked. Forbes themselves, with a day of implementing the same Adblock-shaming techniques ended up being the site that infected 3 million with DDOS clients. I am not against subscriptions, or static advertisements. You have to make money as well. But there's ways to run effective advertisements without alienating users. But, if a program demanded you to disable your antivirus, would you? (That's the kind of situation I'm at). Sincerely, [Kefka]
  - jawilson2 10y ago
    > Advertisement servers have been one of root ways drive-by attacks are dome on users I hope this isn't a copy-paste of what you actually wrote.
  - user5994461 10y ago
    As if that guy had any clue what are "javascript" "drive by" or "DDoS". Might as well have sent an email in chinese.
- callahad 10y ago
  This one also sets the body to `overflow: hidden` and has a scroll event listener that tries to prevent scrolling the document. At which point I bounced.
- spullara 10y ago
  Why would they care if you bounce if you aren't paying? My guess is that the possibility that you might share it with others is low enough that it is probably better for them if you don't get value from the site if they don't get value from you.
Just1689 10y ago
Try uBlock Origin
- adolfoabegg 10y ago
  yep, uBlock Origin works for me too in this site
thefalcon 10y ago
I think this is the source article: http://www.mbari.org/the-pointy-nosed-blue-chimaera-really-gets-around/ http://www.mbari.org/the-pointy-nosed-blue-chimaera-really-g...
jdmichal 10y ago
For those wishing to disable this particular "feature", the script which activates this functionality is: http://www.tribdss.com/meter/ctcngux.min.js http://www.tribdss.com/meter/ctcngux.min.js Filtering that script in uBlock Origin allows the page to function as normal.
beambot 10y ago
Or program not letting you use it until you install valid, paid license?
e40 10y ago
Sort of related: I have a Nexus 5x and run the latest Android. I will no longer install and use apps that are ad supported because I've twice gotten malware that opens misc apps (Google Authenticator was one, and that scared the shit out of me). It's clear that ad networks cannot be trusted. I'm seriously considering rooting again and installing Xposed so I can block ads, but maintain root is such a PITA I'll probably just never use ad-supported apps again. As an example, look at the app reviews for QuizUp (a recently recommended app).[1] [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quizup.core&hl=en https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quizup.cor...

by kefka 10y ago

srose3100 10y ago

I agree, sites that enforce disabling add block should not be allowed to be posted here.

yossarianium 10y ago

I am really hoping that companies are measuring the bounce rate for these types of tactics. When I see one of these I could become a subscriber and log in, I could whitelist the site's advertisements, or I could open Web Inspector and disable the popup layer manually, but I don't do anything of these things. I acknowledge its existence and hit the back button.

kefka 10y ago
I just sent a LinkedIn email (yeah, spammy horrendous-ness all of its own, but I digress) to Malcolm CasSelle, the CTO of Tronc, the owner of the Chicago Tribune. This is the contents. _________________ I'm [kefka], a systems engineer. I regularly read Hacker News, https://news.ycombinator.com https://news.ycombinator.com . A user linked to a story on your property, ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13206294 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13206294 ) which goes to ( http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-ghost-shark-captured-on-camera-20161217-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-ghost-shar... ). It's the response that your website gives me when I try to go to said link: " Advertising revenue helps support our journalism To read today's stories, please turn off your ad blocker or subscribe" I get that your company needs to make money, which I greatly understand and get. However, asking me to quit my adblocker or otherwise disable it is unconscionable. Advertisement servers have been one of root ways drive-by attacks are dome on users, combined with Javascript attack ads that end up with millions hacked. Forbes themselves, with a day of implementing the same Adblock-shaming techniques ended up being the site that infected 3 million with DDOS clients. I am not against subscriptions, or static advertisements. You have to make money as well. But there's ways to run effective advertisements without alienating users. But, if a program demanded you to disable your antivirus, would you? (That's the kind of situation I'm at). Sincerely, [Kefka]
- jawilson2 10y ago
  > Advertisement servers have been one of root ways drive-by attacks are dome on users I hope this isn't a copy-paste of what you actually wrote.
- user5994461 10y ago
  As if that guy had any clue what are "javascript" "drive by" or "DDoS". Might as well have sent an email in chinese.
callahad 10y ago
This one also sets the body to `overflow: hidden` and has a scroll event listener that tries to prevent scrolling the document. At which point I bounced.
spullara 10y ago
Why would they care if you bounce if you aren't paying? My guess is that the possibility that you might share it with others is low enough that it is probably better for them if you don't get value from the site if they don't get value from you.

Just1689 10y ago

Try uBlock Origin

adolfoabegg 10y ago
yep, uBlock Origin works for me too in this site

thefalcon 10y ago

I think this is the source article: http://www.mbari.org/the-pointy-nosed-blue-chimaera-really-gets-around/ http://www.mbari.org/the-pointy-nosed-blue-chimaera-really-g...

jdmichal 10y ago

For those wishing to disable this particular "feature", the script which activates this functionality is: http://www.tribdss.com/meter/ctcngux.min.js http://www.tribdss.com/meter/ctcngux.min.js Filtering that script in uBlock Origin allows the page to function as normal.

beambot 10y ago

Or program not letting you use it until you install valid, paid license?

e40 10y ago

Sort of related: I have a Nexus 5x and run the latest Android. I will no longer install and use apps that are ad supported because I've twice gotten malware that opens misc apps (Google Authenticator was one, and that scared the shit out of me). It's clear that ad networks cannot be trusted. I'm seriously considering rooting again and installing Xposed so I can block ads, but maintain root is such a PITA I'll probably just never use ad-supported apps again. As an example, look at the app reviews for QuizUp (a recently recommended app).[1] [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quizup.core&hl=en https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quizup.cor...