> Where do you meet women if you don't have social circle? You're looking at this in the wrong order. You need to develop some sort of social circle first. Som

> Where do you meet women if you don't have social circle? You're looking at this in the wrong order. You need to develop some sort of social circle first. Some friends that you look forward to seeing on a regular basis (weekly or bi-weekly). They can be men or women (not every woman has to be a potential partner). This isn't even necessarily about your future partner coming out of this social circle, but this is about having some balance in your life. If you have no friends and find a woman who shows the slightest interest in you, you will end up smothering them, because they become your entire social life. When they realize that you don't have any significant friends other than themselves, they will run for the hills (and so they should!). Someone having friends is a way to validate that they are likable and a fun person to be around. Focus on finding friends, through whatever interests you have. Turn off the "looking for a girlfriend" vibe for a while, because it colours everything you do. I know this is super cliche, but when you've got a life that you are happy with, with social activities and pursuing your career and hobbies, that is when you will be at your most attractive to prospective partners. I feel you though, online dating sucks... until it doesn't. There were times in my 20s when I felt a lot like you describe, but in my late 20s, I met my now wife. We now have 2 kids and I couldn't be happier, but I sure cursed the name of online dating for several years before that happened.