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"It was never as difficult as portrayed" - we are talking about UX here. Stating that something is not as difficult is wrong. The UX is bad. When you go to a ne

by vviktor 10y ago

"It was never as difficult as portrayed" - we are talking about UX here. Stating that something is not as difficult is wrong. The UX is bad. When you go to a new country for the first time, you need to search online or ask around how and where to buy sim card. Yes, you can do it in a lot of countries in almost any grocery store. I'm not saying it's easy and it's close to impossible to have something like this implemented world wide. I'm proposing what I think would be ideal solution. Login/password is the current de-facto standard. Until something better, widely accepted comes along, I don't see why my phone number should be safer than my facebook account or my bank account (it's not username/password, but the security of cards that we use for payment is pretty bad)

6nf 10y ago
The most widely used 2nd factor for authentication is a phone number. When I log into my gmail account from a new PC they send me a text to confirm. Same for my bank account. Same for several other services. The reason they do this is because my phone is safer than a simple user / password.
raverbashing 10y ago
> we are talking about UX here. Stating that something is not as difficult is wrong. As an UX concept, correct. But UX cannot go against technological limitations, physical reality or security > When you go to a new country for the first time, you need to search online or ask around how and where to buy sim card Go walk in the city center maybe? Ask around? Yes, you usually need to do some research if you want the best price, but that goes for most things . Also a lot of electronics stores can give you the different plans as they have sim cards. Asking around and doing price research is part of being an adult, sellers won't come together to offer you a price and plan comparison in one page. You're also assuming that people will want to change their mobile operator when they get to a different country (for a short trip they won't need it, some will need to keep their original phone working) Now, remote SIM provisioning may be a good option for some devices (not all of them have wifi or are a smartphone), but that's much different from having a user/pwd combination > Login/password is the current de-facto standard. Until people start having their cell phones cloned, which already happened and that's why they came up with something better > Until something better, widely accepted comes along It's called SIM card, and it is widely accepted, since most carriers went for GSM worldwide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_mobile_phone_standards#Development_of_the_Market_Share_of_Mobile_Standards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_mobile_phone_sta...

by vviktor 10y ago

6nf 10y ago

The most widely used 2nd factor for authentication is a phone number. When I log into my gmail account from a new PC they send me a text to confirm. Same for my bank account. Same for several other services. The reason they do this is because my phone is safer than a simple user / password.

raverbashing 10y ago

> we are talking about UX here. Stating that something is not as difficult is wrong. As an UX concept, correct. But UX cannot go against technological limitations, physical reality or security > When you go to a new country for the first time, you need to search online or ask around how and where to buy sim card Go walk in the city center maybe? Ask around? Yes, you usually need to do some research if you want the best price, but that goes for most things . Also a lot of electronics stores can give you the different plans as they have sim cards. Asking around and doing price research is part of being an adult, sellers won't come together to offer you a price and plan comparison in one page. You're also assuming that people will want to change their mobile operator when they get to a different country (for a short trip they won't need it, some will need to keep their original phone working) Now, remote SIM provisioning may be a good option for some devices (not all of them have wifi or are a smartphone), but that's much different from having a user/pwd combination > Login/password is the current de-facto standard. Until people start having their cell phones cloned, which already happened and that's why they came up with something better > Until something better, widely accepted comes along It's called SIM card, and it is widely accepted, since most carriers went for GSM worldwide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_mobile_phone_standards#Development_of_the_Market_Share_of_Mobile_Standards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_mobile_phone_sta...