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It's kind of unbelievable that HURD is still going. It's been the butt of many a joke in the Unix world: our equivalent of Duke Nukem Forever, or Mordeth. I ca

It's kind of unbelievable that HURD is still going. It's been the butt of many a joke in the Unix world: our equivalent of Duke Nukem Forever, or Mordeth. I can't admire their release schedule, but you're got to admire their persistance. One day, it might just be ready...

sien 10y ago
Hopefully it will run Project Xanadu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Xanadu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Xanadu (check the start date and first working version)
- djsumdog 10y ago
  Huh...now I get the reference when playing Kentucky Route Zero
  - mighty_atomic_c 10y ago
    I didn't realize it was a reference to anything until just now.
disordinary 10y ago
Unlike DNF it's not a commercial product, it relies on volunteers and corporate benefactors. For multiple reasons Linux got the brunt of OSS development resources behind it which wouldn't have helped Hurds schedule.
- qwertyuiop924 10y ago
  As I mentioned in a cousin, this is why Mordeth is a more apt comparison.
nickpsecurity 10y ago
That's great. You make an excellent comparison between its promises vs success vs DNF's. disordinary inadvertently points out that, unlike Hurd, DNF eventually delivered and at least made some money selling 376,300 units. It's kind of a cutdown on DNF to compare it to Hurd which wasn't finished, had little adoption, and sold 0 units. Even MULTICS and SCOMP probably had more adoption in significant use cases despite them practically being case studies on things with low adoption due to expenses or tough tradeoffs. Meanwhile, Minix 3 and Genode are going strong despite originally being made by only a handful of people for a tiny fraction of the time. Hurd is truly a dead end in marketing if the likes of DNF surpasses it in deliverables and adoption.
- qwertyuiop924 10y ago
  ...Which is why Mordeth is a more apt comparison: over 18 years of "development" by a volunteer (I think it's only one), and still no release.
  - nickpsecurity 10y ago
    Yeah that makes sense.

sien 10y ago

Hopefully it will run Project Xanadu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Xanadu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Xanadu (check the start date and first working version)

djsumdog 10y ago
Huh...now I get the reference when playing Kentucky Route Zero
- mighty_atomic_c 10y ago
  I didn't realize it was a reference to anything until just now.

disordinary 10y ago

Unlike DNF it's not a commercial product, it relies on volunteers and corporate benefactors. For multiple reasons Linux got the brunt of OSS development resources behind it which wouldn't have helped Hurds schedule.

qwertyuiop924 10y ago
As I mentioned in a cousin, this is why Mordeth is a more apt comparison.

nickpsecurity 10y ago

That's great. You make an excellent comparison between its promises vs success vs DNF's. disordinary inadvertently points out that, unlike Hurd, DNF eventually delivered and at least made some money selling 376,300 units. It's kind of a cutdown on DNF to compare it to Hurd which wasn't finished, had little adoption, and sold 0 units. Even MULTICS and SCOMP probably had more adoption in significant use cases despite them practically being case studies on things with low adoption due to expenses or tough tradeoffs. Meanwhile, Minix 3 and Genode are going strong despite originally being made by only a handful of people for a tiny fraction of the time. Hurd is truly a dead end in marketing if the likes of DNF surpasses it in deliverables and adoption.

qwertyuiop924 10y ago
...Which is why Mordeth is a more apt comparison: over 18 years of "development" by a volunteer (I think it's only one), and still no release.
- nickpsecurity 10y ago
  Yeah that makes sense.