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I think your requirements are fundamentally impossible to implement because they conflict with one another. > - separate the goddamn lanes so neither car nor c
by smallnamespace 10y ago
I think your requirements are fundamentally impossible to implement because they conflict with one another.
> - separate the goddamn lanes so neither car nor cyclist feels uncomfortably close to the other
This requires more space.
> - don't require extra space because every square meter counts in a big city
This requires less space.
Like, it's easy to gripe about any particular traffic design, but the domain is constrained by a large set of fundamentally opposed requirements, so it's always a big compromise in the end.
- c06n 10y agoDid you watch the videos he linked? They explain how to do that.
- vanderZwan 10y agoFirst, I linked videos explaining how to solve this. Second, even if that was not the case, you have no idea how insanely wide many of the sidewalks are in Stockholm. Here, look: https://www.google.nl/maps/place/Stockholm,+Sweden/@59.3428735,18.0450206,3a,75y,266.65h,62.28t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sCITd8miYo0EHXUX22fl9uA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DCITd8miYo0EHXUX22fl9uA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D207.465%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x465f763119640bcb:0xa80d27d3679d7766!8m2!3d59.3293235!4d18.0685808!6m1!1e1?hl=en https://www.google.nl/maps/place/Stockholm,+Sweden/@59.34287... You could fit ten people side-by-side on there. There are a few areas where this is necessary. Most do not, and this is one of the latter. Also note how they squeeze a tiny strip of bike lane between parking and regular road. Even without any other change, there is no reason to prefer road/bike lane/parking over road/parking/bike lane.