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sigh, if you consider "Soros-funded radicals want civil war" (infowars front page currently) a good faith statement, then we're working from different axioms an
by drewbuschhorn 10y ago
sigh, if you consider "Soros-funded radicals want civil war" (infowars front page currently) a good faith statement, then we're working from different axioms and can't have a real conversation.
- gaius 10y agoI believe that they believe it, which means they are acting in good faith.
- drewbuschhorn 10y agoI don't believe they believe it, and that means we're at an unarguable impasse without starting to bring evidence in.
- gaius 10y agoYou think they're purely in it for the clicks? If so, how is that distinct from a "real" newspaper (whatever that means these days)?
- drewbuschhorn 10y agoI do. I start from the assumption they're reasonable men like me, then compare their ledes to the evidence proffered in the story, and the strength of the conclusion. Infowars fails that test for me, and as a crosscheck, people who have earned my trust. The New York Times passes that test for me, and people who have earned my trust. I'd forgotten we're not supposed to do political arguments on HN (which I suppose really everything is), so I concede, you win the argument and the internet points.