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thanks for taking my question seriously. seems like the only really good answer. but of course, "enterprisey" has never really been a good litmus for "correct"

thanks for taking my question seriously. seems like the only really good answer. but of course, "enterprisey" has never really been a good litmus for "correct" or "sane" or "efficient". it's not a coincidence the Java ecosystem became the brunt of so many jokes. i can't help but wonder how seriously it would have been taken if it weren't a Google project.

weremine 10y ago
It's makes no difference if it's a google project. It fulfills a need, and works. Just because you have a preference for something else doesn't make it any less effective.
- catshirt 10y ago
  "It's makes no difference if it's a google project." you seriously suggest that Google sponsoring a project couldn't possibly catalyze it's success? "Just because you have a preference for something else doesn't make it any less effective." i can usually bear oversimplification- incorrect- or patronizing- but both all three in the same post is pretty testing on my patience.
  - weremine 10y ago
    All I'm suggesting is that just because you are a self described 'react fanboy' (using your own words here from your comment history), it doesn't make Angular less useful in the real world. I applaud your use of React, but we are using angular2 and it is going just fine. All the best.
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tukelully 10y ago
In fairness, your question hardly reads as a question and much more like a halfhearted sigh from someone who hasn't given it much thought. In response to the mention of Google backing it, I don't see how how that should discredit it in the slightest. Sure you don't see anyone getting fired for choosing Angular. That's because it's supported by a business that runs the business on it. In this case, a company filled with some of the best engineers in the business. It also was and is damn good at certain things. Pretty sensible choice.
- catshirt 10y ago
  "In fairness, your question hardly reads as a question and much more like a halfhearted sigh from someone who hasn't given it much thought." the connotations are your own. :) the problems with Angular have been beaten to death and i didn't think i needed to include them to foster a conversation. i'm sure i'm not the only one surprised by the graph in the post [0]. even the article that OP links to- "The State of JavaScript: Front-End Frameworks" [1]- would beg the same question. if we take it's research seriously- more people want to learn React. less than half of surveyed Angular users say they would use it again. there is a discrepancy between that survey and Angular's popularity. i think my question is fair. i think dismissing it requires less thought than asking it. in any case, i didn't say that Google's involvement discredits it. quite the opposite really. a lot of people will admit it's the only reason they've taken it seriously. [0] https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*gmYPusm1EjWu713tmVCd8A.png https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*gmYPusm1EjWu713tmV... [1] https://medium.com/@sachagreif/the-state-of-javascript-front-end-frameworks-1a2d8a61510#.ufc589gy7 https://medium.com/@sachagreif/the-state-of-javascript-front...

weremine 10y ago

It's makes no difference if it's a google project. It fulfills a need, and works. Just because you have a preference for something else doesn't make it any less effective.

catshirt 10y ago
"It's makes no difference if it's a google project." you seriously suggest that Google sponsoring a project couldn't possibly catalyze it's success? "Just because you have a preference for something else doesn't make it any less effective." i can usually bear oversimplification- incorrect- or patronizing- but both all three in the same post is pretty testing on my patience.
- weremine 10y ago
  All I'm suggesting is that just because you are a self described 'react fanboy' (using your own words here from your comment history), it doesn't make Angular less useful in the real world. I applaud your use of React, but we are using angular2 and it is going just fine. All the best.
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tukelully 10y ago

In fairness, your question hardly reads as a question and much more like a halfhearted sigh from someone who hasn't given it much thought. In response to the mention of Google backing it, I don't see how how that should discredit it in the slightest. Sure you don't see anyone getting fired for choosing Angular. That's because it's supported by a business that runs the business on it. In this case, a company filled with some of the best engineers in the business. It also was and is damn good at certain things. Pretty sensible choice.

catshirt 10y ago
"In fairness, your question hardly reads as a question and much more like a halfhearted sigh from someone who hasn't given it much thought." the connotations are your own. :) the problems with Angular have been beaten to death and i didn't think i needed to include them to foster a conversation. i'm sure i'm not the only one surprised by the graph in the post [0]. even the article that OP links to- "The State of JavaScript: Front-End Frameworks" [1]- would beg the same question. if we take it's research seriously- more people want to learn React. less than half of surveyed Angular users say they would use it again. there is a discrepancy between that survey and Angular's popularity. i think my question is fair. i think dismissing it requires less thought than asking it. in any case, i didn't say that Google's involvement discredits it. quite the opposite really. a lot of people will admit it's the only reason they've taken it seriously. [0] https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*gmYPusm1EjWu713tmVCd8A.png https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*gmYPusm1EjWu713tmV... [1] https://medium.com/@sachagreif/the-state-of-javascript-front-end-frameworks-1a2d8a61510#.ufc589gy7 https://medium.com/@sachagreif/the-state-of-javascript-front...