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They tried, on a smaller scale, with dropping the Linux NPAPI plugin. Unfortunately, they were unable to manage even that, and ended up resuming updates to it
by rincebrain 10y ago
They tried, on a smaller scale, with dropping the Linux NPAPI plugin.
Unfortunately, they were unable to manage even that, and ended up resuming updates to it after several years, since so many security vulns kept popping up in it.
The major browsers are trying to leverage their forced-upgrade strategems to increasingly isolate Flash content (click-to-play, locking it in increasingly-harsh sandboxes and throwing away the keys...), because the problem was never convincing _Adobe_ to kill Flash.
It was, is, and will remain convincing users who have run sites with it forever to migrate off.
There are enterprise device web interfaces written in Java applets or Flash (or, on rare occasion, both), that are past EOL but still in use in a great number of locations. There are many "applications" that are just embedded web browsers doing the above dance.
Flash has been around 20 years - it'll probably take at least another 10 after Adobe absolutely stops any updates (which, I think, would take either a transparent migration tool or a bankruptcy), if not more, before seeing Flash becomes an abnormality.
- vbezhenar 10y agoYup. I have HP Microserver at my home and it has remote KVM feature powered by Java webstart application. I expect this server to last for many years, so I need access to Java. I'm Java developer myself, so I figured out how to start it without installing Java plugin, but I don't think that there are many people who would do that. So probably Flash or Java will exist for many years, may be behind some obscure flags.
- rincebrain 10y agoAFAICS every major vendor's KVM plugin is either the same stack with different brandings or just multiple implementations of the same VNC+[secret sauce]+[custom auth] concept in Java - Dell, HP, and Supermicro all do this, at a minimum, as well as probably anyone (else) with an ASTxxxx-based BMC. I'm hoping OpenBMC wins the day here, at least, so that's one less place with Java or Flash.