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>Their success is 100% contingent upon how valuable they make themselves to their employer, and how much crap they accumulate. Boomers see success as zero-sum.

by nicolia 10y ago

>Their success is 100% contingent upon how valuable they make themselves to their employer, and how much crap they accumulate. Boomers see success as zero-sum. Your title comes at the expense of someone else. They believe that young people should be queuing up for these soul crushing admin positions, because they WANT people beneath them. People at the top of the system requires new entrants to prop it up. This article is really enlightening in that it puts to words what is wrong with the loudest baby-boomers, but what about the others? HN has an older userbase and why do they dislike Millennials (if for reason different than the article)?

cmurf 10y ago
Well first off I'd say stereotypes are bullcrap. They exist for a reason, but those reasons are almost always such an oversimplification that they draw the wrong conclusions. But I'll play along... There's always a certain amount of crap handed down from one generation to the next. It's cheap, and self rewarding. Boomers have been given crap continuously since the beginning, by the previous generation, their own ranks (it's a highly varied generation), and generation X. Now that their biggest critics are dying off, they're feeling encouraged to dole this criticism out themselves. They know better than to do it to generation X, because Xers (I'm an Xer) are nearly tone deaf due to the incessant whining by boomers. Plus, boomers are actually starting to go deaf so they yell a lot more than they used to. So they're skipping us over and going straight for the millenials. My advice is to take it like simple teasing rather than taking it seriously. The boomers' bark is worse than the bite. I like millenials. They've got a relatively decent balance of idealism and reality check. My only complaints are they spend way too goddamn much of their income, as a percentage, on housing and foo foo bar drinks.
mankash666 10y ago
"HN has an older userbase and why do they dislike Millennials (if for reason different than the article)?" - Disagree with the premise that HN dislikes millennials. As for claims in the article: 1. "Millennials want to be a part of something they find meaningful. Their work needs to matter, both to them and to the world." - Hence the spate in "meaningful" startups, like "Yo" and the anonymous gossip and social shaming apps (is it called whisper our secret?) 2. "Millennials want to build deep, authentic connections with people. They want real relationships." - this is merely the author's opinion. Divorce rates among millennials are Just as high, if not higher, than boomers. Empirically, dating millennials didn't really increase the seriousness of the relationship. Millennials face a shrinking job market from the outset - unlike the boomers. Robots will make many careers obsolete, and no amount of "against the grain" attitude for the sake of it will hide this fact. Then there's outsourcing, which you cannot run from.

by nicolia 10y ago

cmurf 10y ago

Well first off I'd say stereotypes are bullcrap. They exist for a reason, but those reasons are almost always such an oversimplification that they draw the wrong conclusions. But I'll play along... There's always a certain amount of crap handed down from one generation to the next. It's cheap, and self rewarding. Boomers have been given crap continuously since the beginning, by the previous generation, their own ranks (it's a highly varied generation), and generation X. Now that their biggest critics are dying off, they're feeling encouraged to dole this criticism out themselves. They know better than to do it to generation X, because Xers (I'm an Xer) are nearly tone deaf due to the incessant whining by boomers. Plus, boomers are actually starting to go deaf so they yell a lot more than they used to. So they're skipping us over and going straight for the millenials. My advice is to take it like simple teasing rather than taking it seriously. The boomers' bark is worse than the bite. I like millenials. They've got a relatively decent balance of idealism and reality check. My only complaints are they spend way too goddamn much of their income, as a percentage, on housing and foo foo bar drinks.

mankash666 10y ago

"HN has an older userbase and why do they dislike Millennials (if for reason different than the article)?" - Disagree with the premise that HN dislikes millennials. As for claims in the article: 1. "Millennials want to be a part of something they find meaningful. Their work needs to matter, both to them and to the world." - Hence the spate in "meaningful" startups, like "Yo" and the anonymous gossip and social shaming apps (is it called whisper our secret?) 2. "Millennials want to build deep, authentic connections with people. They want real relationships." - this is merely the author's opinion. Divorce rates among millennials are Just as high, if not higher, than boomers. Empirically, dating millennials didn't really increase the seriousness of the relationship. Millennials face a shrinking job market from the outset - unlike the boomers. Robots will make many careers obsolete, and no amount of "against the grain" attitude for the sake of it will hide this fact. Then there's outsourcing, which you cannot run from.