> I feel like the same things were said about systemd a few years ago and here we are, every major distribution uses it out of the box. Say hello to RH fueled

> I feel like the same things were said about systemd a few years ago and here we are, every major distribution uses it out of the box. Say hello to RH fueled code churn. First it was powerkit, then it was powerd, and now most of it is found inside systemd-logind. Want to power down the computer by clicking a button in the DE, you need systemd-logind, powerd as a wrapper (for now), polkit, and dbus to glue it all together. That or you can forgo building your default distro install around any of the major DEs. The CADT that JWZ railed against a decade ago have gone supersonic, and heading towards superluminal. I really fear for the day Torvalds hands off the maintenance of the kernel, as he is likely to hand it to someone that is already very accepting of this churn. Edit: BTW, it seems the BSDs still rely on hald. Maybe i should bite the "apple" and move on over.