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Give me a break. Seriously. I should have place my commas differently to emphasize that I have worked on many IC design projects as an EE then later on IoT pr

Give me a break. Seriously. I should have place my commas differently to emphasize that I have worked on many IC design projects as an EE then later on IoT projects as a software engineer. No one replying to my comment has at all explained why during early iterations when the product is quickly evolving this separation is a good thing. Frankly it seems to me like (a) people are taking pot-shots are Uber and (b) none of you have actually worked on a hardware project. There is a time when a strict separation between designers and testers is critical. That time is referred to as Qual, or qualification and it is for validation that a part or system operates correctly over all corners of the devices operating parameters. This is not the phase that Uber is in. Again, I don't dispute at all that Uber are being arrogant and reckless jackasses. I'm just saying it has nothing to do with the fact that their engineers desire to work near to the systems they are designing since that is actually a sign of a smart and high functioning engineering team, not the opposite as people have suggested.

ubernostrum 10y ago
that is actually a sign of a smart and high functioning engineering team Do you know what auto makers do in this kind of situation? They build a test track and a workshop at the test track and probably a larger facility adjacent to it, and situate the engineers there. They don't say "well, our engineers live in one of the densest urban areas in the country, let's just test our new car there to be close to them". Uber should get a test track out in the desert or something and relocate some engineers to it. And maybe without the distractions of the SF office they'd manage to get some basic stuff tested, like "recognizes red lights" or "understands how to turn from the rightmost lane".
- eagsalazar2 10y ago
  You still are arguing something I never even mentioned. All I was refuting was the assertion that their desire to be in the same location as that which they are testing is somehow a sign of their engineering disfunction. I have also said numerous times that they should not be doing this testing in dense urban areas in defiance of local laws. Maybe they should relocate everyone! Total tangential point!

ubernostrum 10y ago

that is actually a sign of a smart and high functioning engineering team Do you know what auto makers do in this kind of situation? They build a test track and a workshop at the test track and probably a larger facility adjacent to it, and situate the engineers there. They don't say "well, our engineers live in one of the densest urban areas in the country, let's just test our new car there to be close to them". Uber should get a test track out in the desert or something and relocate some engineers to it. And maybe without the distractions of the SF office they'd manage to get some basic stuff tested, like "recognizes red lights" or "understands how to turn from the rightmost lane".

eagsalazar2 10y ago
You still are arguing something I never even mentioned. All I was refuting was the assertion that their desire to be in the same location as that which they are testing is somehow a sign of their engineering disfunction. I have also said numerous times that they should not be doing this testing in dense urban areas in defiance of local laws. Maybe they should relocate everyone! Total tangential point!